This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
The pages introductory quote and paragraph make this trope out to be comical. But the examples provided demonstrate it's part of making a show's morality grayer. I reckon there should be some link 'tween this page and a morality tropes.
Goldfritha: It can be both, you know.
C Banana: Maybe just me but I liked the original picture better as it was much more colourful.
Earnest: I concur, another vote to put it back.
C Banana: Good enough for me, putting the picture back.
Daikiwixep: I thought it would have been nice to include a reference to the manga, so I put it up. The original picture is fine, too. My apologies about forgettting to alphabetize my example.
Zelnor: Considering the long, unresolved, non-euclidean structures of Kingdom Hearts mythology I doubt the validity of the Roxas/Axel example currently up (especially Roxas, who has a connection to his still living somebody). Since the Nobody issue is never going to be answered (ceiling Nomura watches you theorize), we should use a clearer example.
Daikiwixep: Well, I did have Marluxia and Larxene having dinner and relaxing. I have another picture with them complaining that they seemed to have run out of chicken to eat. I was thinking about Kyoko from Black Cat, except she does a Heel–Face Turn. Although, if we could have Darth Vader at Wal-Mart...
Earnest: Well, buh6173 put a new pic up, putting the old one here for posterity. (What? it might fit another trope... maybe.)
C Banana: Moving this picture back as now we don't have any.
Anaheyla: Removed the following picture and the entry on CP9. Not only is it inaccurate, it's not even an example.
* As seen in the example above from One Piece, after being defeated by the Straw Hats, CP 9 find themselves going shopping, drinking tea, and going to the bowling alley. These...are the same people who were seen earlier murdering innocent civilians in the name of Dark Justice, right?
Daikiwixep:If those guys were antagonists, then that entry qualifies for this trope. I actually prefer this picture over the KH one.
Anaheyla: Key word: Were. The trope only applies if they are currently villains at the time of the given example. As CP9 had since abandoned the World Government they were no longer villains at the time.
I highly suggest that we make the picture for this trope entry a screenshot from the Phineas And Ferb episode "Unfair Science Fair Redux (Another Story)" where Dr. Doofenshmirtz is shopping in a store with Perry the Platypus (in the shopping cart's seat) when they run into Major Monogram and Carl the Intern. I think it fits the trope title better than the anime screenshot. Here's a picture:
As cute as that picture is only Axel was an actual villan at any point. Xion and Roxas were pretty much completely unaware of the consequences of their actions. Xion even asks Roxas to fix their mistaskes in the end not that it did much.
