This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Ronka87: Anyone else think the Real Life section is bulky, nattery, and pointless? Though the trope definitely exists in Real Life, the section's overinflated, and, just in general, I think opening a trope like this up to Real Life examples is just not so great an idea.
Random Troper: According to its page, a Xanatos gambit is a particular type of scheme where, once it is set in motion, ANY outcome will benefit the schemer. The vast majority of the examples listed here do not seem to qualify as cases of Xanatos gambits being run by multiple characters at the same time; they are simply examples of multiple characters who have complicated schemes (but not Xanatos gambits). This trope either needs to be redefined, or most of the examples need to be eliminated.
Random Troper: This http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1582#comic
is a pretty nice example, isn't it? Can we work it in somehow? I notice a lot of pages have an image...
Random Troper: I'll note that the Youtube link under "this one was more like half that" on the page is now defunct. This saddens me. Does anyone know precisely what it led to?
Zephid: My feeling is that some examples under Xanatos Roulette would work better here. Is that what I should be thinking?
Pteryx: Quite possibly so.
Robert Bingham: As noted on the aforementioned page, the name alone, and the image it conjures up, is Made Of Win.
fleb: I dub this page the best YKTTW-bypassing contribution ever.
Haven: While I admire the heroic effort that went into explaining the plot of Chrono Cross, I think that explaining the entire plot of the game is something that should possibly be spoiler-tagged ;) Also, can someone do a better job of explaining Schlock Mercenary's Thirty Xanatos Pileup-ness? It hella qualifies, but I may not be up to it~
Mr Death: Nuked the huge, spoilered block of text from the Pirates Of The Caribbean entry. "The third movie explodes with this" was perfectly fine on its own, we don't need every bit of it detailed behind a spoiler block.
Hydro Globus: Would a game of Planarity be a good image for the page?
Rissa: Are we really spoilering things off the back blurbs of books? I appreciate that they can be spoilery, but surely someone who is currently reading the book and so avoiding spoilers would already have seen that quote. I ask because I haven't read A Civil Campaign.
Kat: I put it in tags because the character in question is a REALLY BIG SPOILER for half the Vorkosigan series, though not for A Civil Campaign, and I didn't want the casual reader who hadn't got to Brothers in Arms to get hit.
cg12345: someone on the Heroes page called this trope a Xanatos Casino, which I feel is an awesome alternative name. How would you go about making that an official alternative name?
Hydro Globus: Seconded! Done.
Haven: Does chess really count? I mean, isn't that more...two Xanatos pileup?
DoKnowButchieTook a scalpel to the TMNT example, which was too long, too hard to read, too spoilerish, and conveyed little of the awesomeness of the events described. Saving it here for posterity...
Twin Bird: I pulled Chess since...well...there are only two people involved, and they manipulate things based on relatively simple rules. Diplomacy, on the other hand...what happened to it?
