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Working Title: Precognitive Perimortem Planning: From YKTTW

Good Omens page quote removed for not really working well out-of-context, and for already being described in the examples section. Sorry!

movie007: What's the difference between this trope and Suicide, Not Murder?


Black Humor: We're going to rename this to Thanatos Gambit in three days if we still have consensus then. If you want to object to this, forum topic here and crowner here.
Everything above is from Xanatos Funeral.
Compare My Death Is Just The Beginning (using your death to set off a plan, while this is using your death to end the plan). Sometimes happens with a Taking You With Me (possibly in the manner of a Collapsing Lair... villains like this one).

Is this the best description of the difference? It seems to me that "My Death Is Just the Beginning" is "my death as an integral part of the original plan", whereas "Thantos Gambit" is "making the most of a death that I didn't plan for". Sort of the difference between a Xanatos Gambit and Xanatos Speed Chess.

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