This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Daibhid C: The Scott/Jean/Emma thing looks like someone Complaining About A Comic They Don't Like, regardless of whether it fits the category (does anyone really think that Grant Morrison spent his childhood reading X-Men comics and thinking Scott and Emma should be together? Or is it more likely that he took off his fanboy hat and decided breaking up the OTP was a good source of story? You may feel it didn't, or not sufficiently to break up the OTP, but that doesn't make it an example of this trope, especially since Tropes Are Not Bad; Doctor Who has, IMO, been greatly improved by having the fans Running the Asylum).
- Primo Victoria: I think you're right.
Dragon Quest Z: "does anyone really think that Grant Morrison spent his childhood reading X-Men comics and thinking Scott and Emma should be together?" This trope does not require that kind of condition to look like official fanfiction. You can become a new fan and still screw things up because you didn't do the research, which is what he did. And Quesada wasn't a child when Peter and Mary Jane married, so that isn't a factor in that either.
Filby: Took out the bit about Black Lightning's two daughters popping up out of nowhere. It's a valid complaint, but it's nothing to do with this trope (and was the work of two separate authors), just someone bitching about a comic he doesn't like.
Kerrah: Removed the Warcraft example, because Richard Knaak isn't an Ascended Fanboy. He's just a poor writer.
Sean Tucker: To whoever removed my edit about certain tropers being mentally ill: I Am Not Making This Up is the only one I'm sore about, because frankly it reflects a shift in the nature of the wiki that I, and a great many other tropers, do not like. At all. I would leave, I am apparently IP banned after all, but I'm a bit too addicted to do that.
Vampire Buddha: Removed this. The EU gets all the same stuff as America, but some of it (the games, mostly) is delayed a bit.
- ** Interestingly, most of the technical staff who worked on the prequel trilogy were Star Wars fans themselves—time between the first trilogy and prequel trilogy made this almost a certainty. The result was many EU references introduced in the effects shots, on top of the official EU references. Lucas had earlier instituted a policy of the EU staying away from the Clone Wars era, so astonishingly little of the earlier EU required retconning. An example of Expanded Universe material making it into the movies is the name of Coruscant, a name for the Imperial capital which was created by Timothy Zahn, though the concept of the city-world was culled from concept work for Return of the Jedi. (Conversely, Zahn's estimated timeframe for the Clone Wars and the time at which Darth Vader was created were clearly a case of Lucas changing his mind later—he would have been Vader for 21 years at the time Luke and Leia were conceived if Zahn's timeline were accurate—and so was quite naturally disregarded.) The double-bladed style of lightsaber made famous by Darth Maul originally appeared in a comic series, the plot of which George Lucas had overseen in the writing stage.
Morgan Wick: I'm not going to add it back, it's probably been too long, but this looks like one of the worst deletions I've ever seen. It sounds like Vampire Buddha read "time between" and "EU" and leapt to conclusions.
Jysella: Could whoever put in Elf Quest (in the comics section) PLEASE elaborate? I saw plenty of wallbangers during its run, but most of them were done by the Pinis, who created EQ, so, not Running the Asylum territory.
Primo Victoria: I would like to discuss the line about wich it looks like edit war is going to start, that i'd teleded and Dragon Quest Z returned saying I needs something more than just declarate it has nothing to do with reality. Excuse me, it's my first edit war. Okay, listen Dragon Quest Z - I'm a big Marvel fan, I like X-Men, like Scott and Emma's relationship and strongly dislike Jean Grey (seriously, she's just boring), get high about every upcoming crossover and I'm checking every single news about anything that has something to do with any of those. At this point we knows for sure one thing about next "Messiah" event, and it's that Cable is going to return to the present with adlut Hope, and that maybye it will have something to do with Bastion. About eventually Jeans return we have only two clues - one that she could have been reborn as Hope and anothert that something drained all fractions of Phoenix force from other users. I'm pretty sure that this line has been addet before "Utopia" event, based on previes that were sugesting Jean's return and Emma's Face–Heel Turn. Here's the thing - previews were lying, nothing of this happened.
Janitor: The line was conjecture. It would go in Wild Mass Guessing.
Primo Victoria: This trope needs to be markes as a subiective.
Random Person: Not...really. There's nothing subjective about the trope itself. If someone was a fan of something and then ended up as a writer/director/producer/whatever of it, it's an example of this trope. There's nothing subjective about that, unless you want to argue about what constitutes a "fan." That said, many of the examples are pretty subjective. Still, there is nothing subjective about the trope itself.
