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arromdee: Please try not to overdo this. Clay Fighter 63 1/3 isn't an example of this trope; the game doesn't try to claim that there are 63 1/3 of anything in the game, or otherwise tie the title to anything in the game. It's just a parody of an ordinary ___ 64 title, which isn't an example of this trope either (for the same reason).

Kiss of the Dragon isn't an example either. It's not as if a movie viewer would think that the title refers to something else.

Jordan: How about Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince?- the title's actual meaning is pretty anti-climactic (and a rip-off of the plot of the Chamber of Secrets to boot).

arromdee: I haven't read it (only been watching the movies) but if you mean that the reader will probably guess wrong about what character is the half-blood prince in the title, I wouldn't count it. That's just the reader expecting one in-story explanation and getting another. The trope is about contriving an in-story explanation for an obviously out-of-story title.

Paul A: Would Ratatouille count? Ratatouille is involved at a key moment in the plot, but they could easily have used something else if they weren't going for the rat reference.

...on the other paw, I guess if it came down to it, I'd vote "no"; they did actually do a pretty good job of integrating the ratatouille, so it's not nearly gratuitous enough to be this trope.


Blork: Removed the following two examples, because in neither case does the title appear to refer to something "outside" of the plot. They're just examples of titles that are in some way connected to the story, just like for example about 99.99% of all titles ever.

  • "Ghost In The Shell" as well as "Stand Alone Complex" refer to concepts within the series: "Ghost" means "soul", "shell" means "body" and "stand alone complex" refers to the futuristic disease of not being connected to the Internet.
  • The show Saving Grace refers to (1) the main character, (2) a phrase meaning the one virtue a person has among their vices and (3) to God's mercy. It's a title that alludes to plot, premise and personality all in two words!

Mr Death: Took out the House entry, because it's not an example of this trope. It's just a standard Job Title title.

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