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Actually, I think Ender's game is a suversion in its entirety. Valentine is kind, but she's far from innocent. She is, for example, capable of writing editorials that play off adults' paranoia. She also worries that she and Peter are not so different.
The Grim Sleeper: I think this thing needs a major overhaul. Undead unicorn trope, the name is too SPOON-y, the text is bad, lame and short. I'd do this myself, but I am the one who created this one, and I haven't improved much since. New name suggestion: Think Of The Children
anon: We already have the Kids Are Cruel page, do we really need to add subversions and aversions here? It's a bit redundant to me.
Po8: I see your point, although Kids Are Cruel is just one subversion/aversion.
Po8: These page quotes don't fit at all, so I excised them:
- "Children are pure. They know who's the strongest."
- MASK DE Smith, Killer7"The weakness of little children's limbs is innocent, not their souls."
- St. Augustine of Hippo, The Confessions
Po8: Reworked the description. I'm taking it off Needs A Better Description, but please add and repair and/or link from Think of the Children!.
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: This trope may have been ubiquitous once, but I don't believe it is now. We have three tropes that are described as inversions, and at least two of those are well-populated with examples. We need to encourage straight examples on this page, to hammer in what it's actually about.
Goldfritha: Definitely need some straight ones. I'll add some!
Goldfritha: While I'm at it, going to purge the "subversions" that do not invoke the trope.
Penguin Factory: I'd like to contest the His Dark Materials entry- Lyra and Will are both older than eleven when they get to the God-killing stuff, if not right from the start (in the first book Lyra pretends to be eleven to make herself seem younger).
Goldfritha: Sounds good to me. We have too many inversions anyway.
Would Chiyo-chan fit into this trope, being a child and, well, innocent? And if so, how?
Is there a Trope for when Person A and Person B (Person B could be a child, but doesn't necessarily have to be) see something (usually off-camera) either horrifying, disturbing, or... "adult", and Person A reaches over and covers Person B's eyes?
