This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
From YKTTW Working Title: You Fail Sex Ed Forever
Jonny D: Does this differ enough from the already existing Hollywood Sex to warrant separate tropes or should these two be combined? Looks like this YKTTW was created before but launched afterwards.
Edit: Read it again and I think that splitting it so that Hollywood Sex is where the sex is idealized and omits some of the less glamorous aspects of real sex, while You Fail Sex Ed Forever is when the sex isn't just uncommonly perfect, it's actually impossible or wrong somehow.
Neep: Agreed. Hollywood Sex seems to be more about sex being idealized, while this trope would be situations in which the biology and anatomy are wrong.
Braininajar: Hmm. Someone has added a link to Anime Anatomy but Its not what was meant by weird anatomy
Twentington: Only 1.5 to 5 mL? Wow, I must be pretty well above average.
kl: The average mL measurement is corroborated by Wikipedia, but the article it cites says that a millilitre is roughly equivalent to a teaspoon. I'm going to change the teaspoons measurement to go with that.
Anonymous: Checking with Wikipedia
states "a teaspoon ... for cooking purposes, is 5 mL". Checking with the online Google calculator, you have 1 ml = 0.202884136 US teaspoons or equivalently 1 US teaspoon = 4.92892159 milliliters showing that the teaspoon is not equivalent to the the mililiter. Changing it to match.
Lomopingseph: WOW TOO MUCH INFORMATION GUYS
Ran Exilis: Allright, I decided to remove the Anime Anatomy link that Braininajar mentioned earlier - that trope is about abstract or absent sexual features, not about weird yet explicitly shown sexual features or the anatomical peculiarities of anime characters in general. Also, a question; exactly why is "All sex is oral" linked to Male Gaze? I fail to see what a trope about men's tendency to stare at certain parts of the female anatomy has to do with unrealistic depictions of oral sex in fiction...
Antheia: Agreed. Removing it.
Anonymous: Actually depending on the individual persons physiology saliva can work perfectly as a lubricant, varying in effectiveness based on their level of hydration and the phlegm content. Now you know.
Antheia: Well, see, "level of hydration" (by which I assume you mean self-lubrication) is kind of the problem here, as hydration is (or should be) nonexistant in the Brokeback Mountain scene.
Great Limmick: I suspect "hydration" refers to "how much water you've been drinking".
Antheia: That would make a lot of sense. A lot more sense, really ...
Jimak: It really depends on the person. We don't produce the same type of saliva. Some of us produce a lot more and it may have a different composition. Sorry for the Squick but, I've only twice used anything but saliva, and I haven't had any problem. And we're both male, so, no vaginal fluids or anything. I don't think it's a "bad" lubricant, really. Water also, does more than enough to be a proper lubricant. I mean, they both seem kind of inferior when compared to actual lubricants, but still. Using water or saliva isn't unrealistic, so I don't think it should stay in the article. I mean, you guys are always carrying around sexual lubricant? I do carry condoms, but... Lubricant? If you think about it, it's actually more natural to NOT have lubricant around, unless you know you will have sex, and trouble during it.
Great Limmick: While we're on lubricant, one line characterizes blood as "the opposite of a lubricant". Does that mean it's an abrasive, an adhesive, or what?
Ororo: I'm not sure. It may- not that it does, but it may- have to do with the fact that blood coagulates over time.
Tom 90 Deg: May want to change the wrong facts part, namely "these included factual errors, such as that the egg and sperm have 24 chromosomes each" The egg and sperm have 23 chromosomes, and 1 sex chromosome, so you can say 24 chromosomes total. But I don't know what the book exactly said, so I did'nt futz with it.
