Video Game The World Ends With You Discussion

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mistertapman95
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09:01:53 AM Jul 29th 2017
edited by mistertapman95
Punch Clock Villain is listed twice on this page, once after Post-End Game Content and once after Psychic Powers. Which one should be deleted?
daftinquisitor
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11:22:17 AM Oct 20th 2015
The "Tomato Surprise" entries — are these a misused trope? The trope definition itself says it's about details in the setting that it's common for people to know, but are used as a surprise for the viewer/player/etc. I don't think either trope entries here are something that would be considered "common knowledge" for the setting.
levidiad
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05:23:51 PM Sep 10th 2014
Isn't the example under Broken Aesop a single subversion and not a double subversion? The explanation ends with saying the Aesop is unbroken, so it's either a single subversion or a zig-zag, right?
SeptimusHeap
01:12:18 AM Sep 11th 2014
That seems more like Square Peg, Round Trope to me; it reads like "consequences happen" which is not what this is about, so I've pulled it:
  • Broken Aesop: Double subversion. Given the game's gambit pileup, it's almost inevitable. Trust your partner winds up appearing pretty broken, given that Joshua not only did in fact kill Neku, but Joshua also set up all the events of the game. Then it gets unbroken as Neku's trust in Joshua causes Joshua to change his mind about destroying Shibuya.
ZeldaCrescent
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03:04:19 PM Sep 14th 2012
On the main page the link to the manga doesn't work.
onlybobtheduck
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01:39:49 AM Feb 20th 2012
It's a wonderful world MOVIE vs the Alternate title for this GAME... They're different, and the list for "Screwball Comedy" has the movie in there, and links to this article by means of a redirect... Um... Maybe there SHOULDN'T be a redirect. Maybe the MAIN article for that should be the one that actually HAS that title (not just one possible way to translate the title) and link to TWEWY as an aside saying "If you were looking for the game..."
Oreochan
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01:35:22 PM Jan 8th 2012
The following needs context, so I took it off. See How to Write an Example.

EHK
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09:58:44 AM Oct 17th 2010

This entry was just deleted with just the word "No" as a reason. Reading the page for Faux Symbolism, aka What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic, it seems to fit pretty well. Is this something that belongs in the YMMV section, it's not there now but that's an easy fix. Don't want to start an edit war and I'm not sure where it belongs so I figured I'd ask.
KrisMahai
11:31:06 AM Oct 17th 2010
I can't say. Faux Symbolism has always been iffy for me, and the definition somewhat confuses me, so I've left it alone. I say go ahead in adding to to the YMMV tab, though.
Daakun
01:24:01 AM Oct 18th 2010
I'd say it doesn't qualify, it's a recurring theme with those guys; dudes didn't just go "What if we made Joshua's lasers have cherubs and **** riding them?" and toss it in, it was planned from the start.
EHK
01:33:51 AM Oct 18th 2010
Yeah but the symbolism does not mean anything. It's just there to look cool.
Daakun
02:38:56 PM Oct 24th 2010
...Joshua can effectively bring people back to life and rewrite the entirety of at least one plane of existence.
Marshmello
12:24:06 PM Oct 26th 2010
There was definitely an intention behind all of the religious symbolism surrounding Joshua, making it Rule of Symbolism and not Faux Symbolism if we're going to include it at all. YMMV on whether the Producer being an "Angel" actually has religious significance or if they just thought that that would make him cooler.

However, things like the crucifixes/pentagrams in CAT's graffiti (edited out of the English version) and the Angel/Demon/God ESP-er rankings are more than likely just examples of Faux Symbolism.
87.64.28.228
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10:29:49 AM Sep 14th 2010
I want to add the concept of a "Music of Shibuya" as an example of Fanon, but since it's so surprisingly widespread in fanfiction I'm having hesitations and I'd like confirmation from other players that it really is fanon. (I've beaten the game a dozen times and read each of the Secret Reports at least twice and haven't seen a single mention of a "Music", but, y'know, I could've just missed it...)
Marshmello
02:55:38 PM Sep 14th 2010
As an avid player of the game and avoider of fanfiction, I can safely tell you that the concept of "Music" with a capital M appears nowhere in the canon. Not really sure what it is, to be honest.
KrisMahai
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12:49:53 AM Jun 15th 2010
edited by KrisMahai
I'm aware that there's no rule on the wiki against Troper Tales for work pages on the site. This is mentioned on the Troper Tales discussion for TWEWY. Still, I'm not exactly sure of the point, as it's mostly populated by people talking about cosplay, ways the game have affected them, and the game itself, such as bosses and achievements. This can all be done on the forums, where it is actually intended for this to happen.

tl;dr: There's not much point to the Troper Tales page. Who here would be opposed to deleting it?
BattleMage
08:49:11 AM Jun 15th 2010
I'd say we remove it, but this should probably be asked on the forums where more people will see it.
KrisMahai
09:05:00 AM Jun 15th 2010
edited by KrisMahai
Yeah, okay. I'll post a thread in Trope Repair Shop.

Link to discussion in TRS.
SpaceParanoid42
07:41:22 PM Jun 17th 2011
If you read the above linked discussion, you'll find that the consensus was that there was no need to delete the troper tales page, as it wasn't disrupting anything and fans were having fun with it. And yet, the page is now not only deleted, but also LOCKED to keep anyone from bringing it back. I for one was very opposed to the idea of cutting it, and I would very much like to know who did it and why. I notice the "Mass Effect" and "Phineas and Ferb" troper tales pages are still fine. I still see no reason to delete this one other than to say "Stop having fun guys." Who insisted that it be deleted? Why?
RhymeBeat
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03:32:21 PM May 3rd 2010
edited by RhymeBeat
So I think it's time to determine our spoiler policy on the Game's Dead to Begin With nature. The reveal occurs in the first third of the game. Many tropes rely on knowlege of this spoiler to make sense. So pro-spoiler or anti-spoiler?
Marshmello
04:08:47 PM May 3rd 2010
edited by Marshmello
It could go either way, really. Dead to Begin With is the entire premise of the game, and while it came as a shock to Neku, it wasn't necessarily intended to shock the player. However, you're a quarter way through the game by the time it's revealed, and chronologically it's revealed after a few other spoilers, like Neku attempting to kill Shiki and Rhyme's death.

I don't think that it would ruin the game for people who haven't played to that point yet, but it would be relatively easy to keep ambiguous if we did keep it a spoiler (compared to say, God Was My Copilot, which has almost no wiggle room).

On the topic of spoilers, though, I'd like to put forward that Neku changing partners and the Game lasting for three weeks are not spoilers; all three partners have their battle controls and fusions explained in the manual.
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