It has been rewritten as Pragmatic Villainy , which doesn't fit either, because he's not avoiding evildoing for practical reasons, but because he simply doesn't want the responsabilities (out of laziness / character)
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I'd say Refusal of the Call , which is not exclusive to heroes.
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- Bondage Is Bad: Fetishism rather than bondage, but the trope still applies. Larys, the most Obviously Evil character, is a foot fetishist who has been helping Alicent in exchange for her letting him jack off to her feet, and she takes no enjoyment out of this arrangement. The Lie Back and Think of England tone of the scene implies that the main issue isn't Larys having a foot fetish, but extorting Alicent with valuable information so that he can use her body as a prop when she clearly doesn't like it. The "foot fetishists are weird slimy creeps" trope is still played straight though.
This is Square Peg Round Trope. Being into feet isn't BDSM, and the fetishes have nothing in common. If "foot fetishists are weird slimy creeps" is a trope, it would be its own trope. If Bondage Is Bad is about creepy characters having any old fetish, it would be a different trope.
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The Laconic page mentions BDSM only, but the Playing With page mentions fetishism too? So I dunno, I do think there's room to argue it either way. Ideally this would be a job for Trope Repair Shop to clarify but it's always so busy that's probably not gonna happen.
If I was giving personal opinion, though, I would think we're talking about here but two separate tropes here, albeit Sister Trope. If someone can maintain an erection while beating their lover, there's a violent, dangerous air to that. With a foot fetish, the symbolism is very different; weird, gross, mystifying, but not dangerous per se. There is no "foot fetish sex gone wrong and now someone is dead".
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I think this is a simplistic view of the trope. It even says in the trope description that it doesn't necessarily have to be bondage or BDSM, and the entries below support that. There are several entries on autoerotic asphyxiation, which also has nothing to do with BDSM. There are several other examples on the page of fetishes that aren't closely related to BDSM.
If this doesn't count, then maybe the trope itself should be updated to reflect the entries, or maybe there should be some sort of clean-up on the page. I do think the trope still applies here. The last sentence was also an addition made by someone else and can be removed if necessary, it is a little on the nose.
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@Eivie That's a good point actually. I kinda wonder if there could be a subtrope of Bondage Is Bad where this could apply, like Fetishes Are Creepy or something like that. I think I've only seen a couple of movies and shows where a character with a foot fetish isn't portrayed as a weirdo.
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If the Playing With page says that fetishes are an example, then maybe the entry can be prefaced with Played With? Or maybe it counts as Justified, since Larys' having a foot fetish isn't the cause of his sociopathic behaviour, at least as far as we know.
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@Eivie I'm thinking of maybe creating a new trope page on the TLP that would better fit this trope. Do you have any ideas on how I could describe and title it? As for Laconic, I was thinking something like "A fetish is used to highlight a character's creepiness". I think that is a pretty common thing in the media that could be set apart from Bondage Is Bad. Like you said, there's no implications of danger about a foot fetish, just grossness and surrealness.
Also, I think this scene could be considered a Trope Codifier, considering how popular it is.
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Aegon's reluctance to rule isn't a principled decision made for the benefit of the realm. He just doesn't want the responsibility and would rather continue indulging his vices as he's done throughout his life.
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