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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 2nd 2014 at 12:27:19 PM •••

So what's the trope? The laconic says "Giant fans generate power." That's not a trope, that's a description of how wind turbines work.

In examples like:

  • Serenity has some vertical windmills.
  • The characters of 28 Days Later pass by some wind turbines on their drive north.

...the turbines aren't described as doing anything or meaning anything, they're just there.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 2nd 2014 at 12:54:29 PM •••

It's visual symbolism. These two examples can be culled.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 2nd 2014 at 1:16:48 PM •••

Symbolism of what, though? I just picked those two because they're particularly obvious contentless examples, the rest of them aren't a lot better. The trope itself looks like the main problem.

"They can be an expression of environmental themes, and a symbol of old technology—windmills—meeting modernity, in that they make electricity."

The first implies "wind turbines = Green Aesop", which would be a trope. The second implies "wind turbines = old meets new" which would be a trope. But "wind turbines" is not a trope, even if they have several unrelated significations.

I can maybe see the germ of a "wind turbines are futuristic" trope in there.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 2nd 2014 at 1:31:19 PM •••

Modernity and environmentalism are related, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 2nd 2014 at 1:49:39 PM •••

But they're "modern" in the sense that smartphones and flatscreen T Vs are modern — including them is an accurate recreation of what the modern world looks like. If they're used in an older work to evoke a futuristic setting, that's a different matter, but Technology Marches On and nowadays they're just a fact of life.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 2nd 2014 at 1:55:08 PM •••

Kind of stretching "fact of life" there. That said, I guess that Trope Talk is a better venue to ask.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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