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03:51:04 AM May 1st 2018
This example under Doctor Who seems arguable:
  • Then there's The Doctor himself. His own people hate him most of the time. There are star systems that want him dead, and not just his mortal enemies like the Cybermen or Daleks. Even people he's saved have no love for the poor guy. Queen Victoria knighted him and exiled him all at once. And helped fund Torchwood, which originally considered him public enemy number one. Of course, being the titular character of the world's longest running sci-fi show, he's beloved by fans around the world, in any of his many, many incarnations. Although it must be noted that he also does have a lot of loyal friends and companions who clearly think the world of him and, in at least one episode, when a distress signal was sent out summoning summoning his allies and supporters to his aide, half the universe showed up.

The example itself has a justifying edit noting that he's got plenty of friends in-universe, which seems quite contrary to the nature of the trope. It seems like a bit of a stretch.
02:56:02 PM Nov 3rd 2011
Would Grover from Sesame Street be considered an Unpopular Popular Character? The audience loves him, but the other Muppets can't seem to stand him. For example, he keeps trying to sell Kermit things that he cannot use.
10:38:05 PM Mar 18th 2011
In the Invader Zim example below, Dib is cited as the 3rd or 4th most popular character...on a show with only 4 main characters. That's kind of a meaningless distinction, isn't it? I'm not arguing against Dib qualifying for the trope (he absolutely does), but the way the entry is written is kinda like saying "George Harrison is loved by fans as the 3rd or 4th most popular Beatle."
03:27:00 PM Jul 16th 2010
Since this trope evokes sympathy by having a character not be popular, is it a subtrope of This Loser Is You? As in, it's basically the last part of "Like this character, we assume you're stupid, weak, and no one likes you?" Is that worth mentioning?
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