Main Turn Of The Millennium Discussion

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02:41:22 PM Jul 7th 2015
I have never heard anyone use the term "Oughties"!
04:51:12 PM Feb 16th 2015
edited by TokoWH
So, having lived through the Turn of the Millennium, may I just say: Worst. Era. Ever.

Granted, I went through a lot of personal problems that era, so I may just associate this era with bad memories in general, but there were a lot of other smaller things about this era that bugged the hell out of me...

Thankfully The New '10s have been kinder to me so far, and in general there has been more things I liked about The New '10s than I disliked.
01:54:50 PM Feb 12th 2013
edited by ctempire
Is there an image out there that puts most popular culture of the 2000s together?
09:31:07 PM May 3rd 2014
You can always open up a Image Pickin' discussion thread!
12:30:20 AM Apr 26th 2012
Shouldn't the 00s end in 2010 and not 2009 because when you are counting you start at 1 and not 0?
09:11:37 PM May 3rd 2011
Should we put the explosion of the GLBT movement here or in The New '10s? Techinically, it the politics around it really hit the ground running in the last few years of the millenial decade, but it's still ongoing.
05:39:42 PM Oct 8th 2010
I don't know about anyone else, but doesn't anyone else think that the page needs a picture and possibly a Useful Notes page for future reference?
07:29:15 PM Jun 27th 2010
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I question Darker and Edgier as a Turn of the Millennium trope. I actually associate Darker and Edgier with The '90s in a big way - you've got the '90s Anti-Hero trope, the Dark Age of Comics, Grunge, Mortal Kombat, Gen X cynicism all over the place. I associate the Millennium with Reconstruction and a lot of works that respond to the 90's Darker And Edgier trend with a sense of defiant fun and optimism. The 90's gave us Spawn, the Millennium gave us Seaguy. The 90's gave us Neon Genesis Evangelion, the Millennium gave us Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. In 1991, White Wolf started the World of Darkness with Vampire: the Masquerade; in 2001, White Wolf published the first edition of Exalted.

Maybe this is just me, though - anyone else agree?
11:46:23 AM May 24th 2010
No list of started webcomics? Why?
03:19:00 PM May 24th 2010
The only reason is probably that no-one thought of making one so far. This being a wiki, and there being No Such Thing as Notability, there is no reason you should not start such a list.
07:50:48 PM May 29th 2010
But then again, only a few webcomics were made before 2000
11:55:25 AM Jun 16th 2010
In that case, maybe the growing popularity of webcomics is a good thing to add to the article.
11:31:19 AM Apr 20th 2010
I think it would be interesting to have a discussion on whether this decade is over yet, and whether we are living in The New '10s yet, or just a continuation of the Turn of the Millennium.

Economic recovery has at least somewhat started, so the recession isn't the main element in the public consciousness any-more. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are still going on, but after so many years, they do not get as much media attention as before. They have become sort of a part of the background, and no-one seems to be talking much about either winning, or losing them. Domestic politics and polarization in the U.S. have become much more defining for the world's sole super-power. Europe got shaken with the death of the Polish president along with many others, and the biggest grounding of air traffic in the history of modern aviation. Perhaps neither event will be truly defining in the long run, but they are pretty big nonetheless. The results of the British election on May 6th may also prove interesting. I dunno about the rest of the world.

Right now we have two Hollywood History articles claiming to be The Current Decade... which one is right? Or will we have to wait until the end of 2019 to have enough information to decide for good? :P
07:11:03 AM May 2nd 2010
The decade ended December 31st 2009. This is how time is counted and anyone saying otherwise is an idiot. 1990 wasn't part of the 80s! 1900 wasn't part of the 1800s! That's stupid.
07:37:29 AM May 2nd 2010
... From the context of the article, I think it is fairly clear that my comment was about whether the cultural "decade" has ended yet. Which is what the article is about. A discussion about years and "how time is counted" is Completely Missing the Point (always fun when combined with accusations that other people are idiots). This is not about counting time or calendars, this is about a sense of cultural continuity.
03:59:09 AM Apr 20th 2010
I was struck by the last paragraph of the introductrion page. It seems that there is no name for this decade yet, and my mind came up with a name, which I think fits quite well.

"The Terrorism Tens."
11:10:46 AM Apr 20th 2010
Eh, terrorism itself started the decade, but it was its consequences that defined it, rather than terrorism itself. It was the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, only the former of which really had much to do with terrorism, that did a lot of the defining. And then there was the recession... It was/is really just a generally crappy decade of incompetent leadership, weak economy, and lots of pointless, depressing warfare. I dunno what a good name would be — let's decide that in another 5-10 years. :P
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