Am I alone in thinking that we should index these pages?
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I really don't know how people come up with trope names sometimes. There are cases where I could think of better (or alternative) trope names. It's not like I have to watch every movie or TV show out there, right?
Edited by kkj12345
Why exactly is it that none of the indexes on the sub-pages work?
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I think that the Trope Namer sub-pages should be turned into indexes, listing both the works and the tropes they named.
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I think we don't want to advertise Trope Namer status like this.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
As is stated on the main page, a work being a trope namer is not necessarily a badge of honor.
I only suggested this because I thought that indexes were very convenient.
Should the sub-pages be indexes? We have an index for Image Source, so how is this any different? I think doing this would make it much easier.
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I think the idea behind them not being indexes is that a Trope Namer is usually a bad thing and thus discouraged.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I think that the sub-pages should be indexes. And I don't think that this necessarily means creating new Trope Namers out of the blue.
I still think that the sub-pages should be turned into indexes, listing both the works and the tropes they named.
It's no badge of honour or anything to name a trope after a work, but somehow it's TOTALLY PRESUMPTIOUS to call something a trope namer in an YKTTW? I mean, who cares? If it needs changing, just change it when that becomes apparent. "Trope namer" just means what it's named after, and the initial write-up can and probably will change in other ways too.
I'm not advising people to ignore that advice from the main page. By all means, let's do it like that and not use the term "trope namer" in YKTTW if that's how people feel. What I'm saying is that I don't follow the logic. (Of course, that's in itself an unintentional admission: I don't understand — maybe there is something to understand that I'm missing.)
Edited by VVK
Changed the subpage indexing (the bars along the bottom of articles) to only list works, as navigating both works and tropes in a semi-alphabetized list is confusing. This did not work for TropeNamers.Professional Wrestling as some of the articles it lists only have it for an index and it has no works.
Was unsure about how or if to index split pages like Literature or Traditional Games, so they're untouched.
I don't see why this article's title is plural. It should be swapped with the singular redirect - most links to this page come from that anyway.
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Because Trope Namers is the most fitting name for the page, while Trope Namer is much easier to use in a sentence.
Cloudflier
We need to come up with a uniform system on how to deal with renamed tropes. Some tropers remove the trope entirely from the list, while others list the old trope and the current name for said trope in parentheses. Could potentially lead to an edit war one day, though that's unlikely.
I personally favor the method of listing the old trope name under a series while putting in parentheses that it's the former name for trope x. The Trope Namer page does show the history of specific tropes' origins afterall. It's true we have a seperate page for renamed tropes, but it's not useful if you're looking for certain genres or specific sources.
Just to clarify, this is only about the Trope Namer lists we have, not the actual works' pages.
Edited by Cloudflier
Per TRS, this is no longer considered Trivia, and was indexed on Administrivia:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16892117900.56932900&page=2#comment-27
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.