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08:50:42 AM Mar 2nd 2013
This example:

"Brokeback Mountain averted this by having the main characters be (possibly) bisexual, but pandering to this trope has nevertheless led to the movie being marketed as a gay love story."

Whaaa...? The characters in the film are presented as closeted gay men who give in to social pressure by marrying women. How does it suggest they're bisexual? And what about it "being marketed as a gay love story"? That's exactly what it is!
MithrandirOlorin
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01:20:53 AM Jan 10th 2013
edited by MithrandirOlorin
TV's tendency to fall into this tends to be most apparent in adaptations. Take Pretty Little Liars, Emily is Bi in the books, but on TV she's pure Lesbian. The decision to do this is usually defended by saying it would otherwise have Unfortunate Implications that being gay is only a phase for high-school girls. (eyeroll)

Ali claims she is straight and was only messing with Emily when she kissed her, but she may have only been saying that to mess with Emily.
willpell
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02:39:52 AM Sep 15th 2012
It stands to reason that it's automatically harder to prove that someone is bisexual, because this requires you to either explicitly state their orientation (a violation of "Show, Don't Tell") or have them in at least two relationships (within a space of time sufficient to register on the viewer's attention span, which may not be comparable to that of a goldfish, but certainly can't be counted on to be aware of events from three seasons ago). Thusly, one picture of Miss X and Mr. Y kissing demonstrates that Miss X is androphilic and Mr. Y is gynophilic, without need to break immersion (almost said "insertion" there, how Freudian) by just up and saying that they're attracted to each other. If one of the characters is actually bi, you then need to show another kiss to prove it, so the revelation inherently requires more setup.
TwinBird
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08:10:03 PM Aug 4th 2010
I was thinking: in the past few seasons, female bisexual characters (yes, partially for fanservice, but frankly, I don't think the widespread positive reaction is as strong a factor as the relative infrequency of a negative one) haven't been that uncommon, but male bisexuals have. Currently, only a few examples reflect this, but I think it's run very deep in our culture, and the description should be rewritten to reflect it.
Jonn
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11:27:56 AM Mar 14th 2010
edited by Jonn
Why was the second point below deleted? The language is somewhat ambiguous. "thingies" could be referring to sexual organs or sexual orientation. It's probably the latter, but the quoted portion below goes on about how all the possible interactions of said organs have been charted.

  • This newspost from PennyArcade plays the trope absolutely 100% straight.
    • Unless, of course, "thigies" refers to the man-bits and lady-bits.
      Every possible intersection of ding-dongs and hoo-has has been charted, mapped, and inverted, and each permutation of the above has been pontificated on for as long as the material components of physical love have been in circulation.
TwinBird
08:34:10 PM Apr 8th 2010
Read the second post down, as indicated by the parenthetical. That's almost certainly what the original poster was referring to, and renders the second point irrelevant.
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