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jerodast
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06:57:41 AM Jan 3rd 2013
I just want to thank whoever added the Greece example. I didn't know that, and it is awesome.
Tableau
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08:11:10 PM Aug 2nd 2010
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This trope description seems to be missing the type of Little "No" where the speaker is confronted by a deep, horrifying or terrible truth. There are examples on the page for this type but the type itself isn't in the description. I'm not really sure how to write it in.
jerodast
07:04:03 AM Jan 3rd 2013
If we wanted to give laconic versions of each type, they might be "defiant no", "desperate no", and "broken no". You're suggesting a "horrified no". I may reorganize the description along these lines.
jerodast
11:04:45 AM Jan 3rd 2013
Ooh ooh, I got another one: The Osh Kosh B'Gosh example is a "uncaring no"! They're everywhere. Perhaps the distinguishing feature of this trope is not any particular type of usage, but rather the simple and direct way it conveys an emotion? But in that case, why not just make the trope "Little [Any Word]"?

I guess the key is that all these examples are rejecting something. Sometimes it's a direct question - typical for the "defiant" and "uncaring" no. Other times it's just a situation - almost universal in the "broken" and "desperate" no (the later of which I should have called the "freaked out no", perhaps).
Adannor
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11:04:34 AM Jul 4th 2010
This trope covers two very different thing - a badass certain "No." and a meek Oh Crap-like "no.". Maybe we should divide the examples it two parts for this distinction?
jerodast
06:56:24 AM Jan 3rd 2013
Three things, even - a badass certain "No" (V for Vendetta), an Oh Crap trying-to-be-badass no (Agent Smith), and a heartbreaking, broken no (Captain Kirk).

I'm not sure how to categorize, say, Isildur's "no". It is defiant, but it's more "I have decided to be a dick" than badass and certain. I guess that's a fair villainous equivalent.
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