Discussion Main / ICanLiveWithThat

Is the Order of the Stick example Type 1 or Type 2? Currently it appears on both lists.

Can someone who knows more about the series trim down this unwieldy block of text into something reasonable?

• The Trope Namer is the magnificent Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season six episode "In the Pale Moonlight", which is one of the most controversial, polarizing episodes in the entire franchise's history. Detractors of Deep Space Nine absolutely hated it because it was savagely dark. Fans of Deep Space Nine consider it one of the best, if not the best episode of the entire series, for exactly the same reasons. The Federation and their Klingon allies are losing the war against the Dominion and their Cardassian allies, and the only other great power in the Alpha Quadrant, the Romulans, have so far remained neutral. Sisko realizes the only hope for victory is to convince the Romulans to join the war on the side of the Federation. With the help of Garak, he gets a convicted criminal out of a Klingon prison to create an entirely fake record to "prove" to the Romulans that the Dominion is planning to betray them. Sisko even has to pay another criminal using material essential to the creation of bioweapons (no questions asked) in order to obtain an authentic Cardassian data rod to record it on. However, Garak knew that the recording would probably not pass any closer examination, and that Sisko was not ruthless enough to go all the way they needed to reach their goal. So when the Romulan senator Vreenak realized that "It's a fake!!!", Garak had a bomb planted on his ship that would be traced back to the Dominion. Any salvage team that would go through the debris would find the recording, and all its tiny flaws would be attributed to damage caused by the explosion. He also assassinated the man who created the record, just to be sure. Everything went as he had planned, and the Romulans joined the war on the Federation's side. Sisko realizes what happened and confronts Garak with a sucker punch in outrage only to receive an epic Hannibal Lecture about The Needs of the Many (millions to trillions of civilian lives and freedom vs. a handful of criminals, foreign agents, and one man's guilty conscious) and how Sisko recruited him for the mission because Garak would be willing to do whatever it takes.
  Sisko: So this is a huge victory for "the good guys"! This may even be the turning point of the entire war. There is even a "welcome to the fight" party tonight in the ward room. So... I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all... I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing, a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it...
  (Beat)
  Sisko: Computer, delete that entire recording.
  (computer beeps compliantly)