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One question: what is it with Godwin and Hitler? He must be a Hitler fan, neo-Nazi and absolute anti-semite, I guess.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: shouldn't this be a ptitle?
, started by Deboss on Dec 21st 2010 at 8:23:29 AM
How about an example were the Nazi win prescscly because Hitler was killed?
See an argument can be made that all this focus on Hilter the individual is an oversimplification, Nazism was bound to happen and without Hitler it'd just be a different Charismatic leader.
Hitler was a good Orator, but actually an idiot at Military Strategy, he made many really stupid decisions that contributed to Germany's loss.
So someone other then Hitler becoming the Furuer, with the intelligence of a Napoleon or Alexander could be exactly what causes the Nazis to win.
I actually have a personal theory that the best was to prevent the Evil of WWII is to cause Germany to Win WWI.
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How many of these Time Travel = Nazi Victory happen because the time traveler deliberately engineered a Nazi Victory (by, say, bringing future tech to the Nazis on purpose)?
Under Star Trek: TOS: "Also according to this episode, this woman's death changed the alignment of the flipping stars."
Anyone know what this is talking about? I'm familiar with this episode and I remember nothing of the sort.
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I was wondering the same thing. That example contains some other odd claims:
"Result: man never goes into space." The episode says nothing about that. In the original script, the altered timeline definitely includes space travel: the Enterprise still exists, but it's called the Condor and it's a pirate ship.
"Interestingly, the Nazi victory doesn't last long. According to the original script and the subsequent Novelization, the Nazi regime collapsed shortly after." I own a copy of the original script and have read it many times. I don't remember anything like that. And since when is there a novelization? I've never heard of it. (James Blish did adapt the episode in his book Star Trek 2, but the result is not a novel by any stretch of the imagination; it's only 17 pages long.)
Can anyone substantiate these claims? If not, I'm going to delete them.
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No one has offered any defense of the bogus claims, so I am deleting them.
That One Guy...
I say that the phrase "Prevent a Nazi victory? Nazi Victory!" should be changed to "Prevent a Nazi victory? Soviet Victory!" for a combo breaker, and the fact that HTTEA is "Don't go kill Hitler, because you'll make things worse (or fail, like the rest of them), and usually because you just made the Soviets win."
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"Godwin's Law of Time Travel can also be used in telling similar stories about other past war-losers and faded empires. The Confederacy, the Soviets, the Romans, the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Aztecs, and the colonial-era British are all possibilities."
So, are such stories covered under this trope (as comparisons to Stalin et al are covered by Godwin's Law, and Putting on the Reich includes Soviet and Ancient Roman motifs) or not? It's kind of ambiguous.
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Yes. That paragraph makes this about as clear as I can imagine.
See you in the discussion pages.
Where is the photo at the top from? The one that shows the nazi flags hanging from the white house?
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I thought it was Star Trek Enterprise at first: it had a very similar image of a Nazi-occupied White House, but not quite the same. Turns out it's from the game Turning Point: Fall of Liberty.
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Can anyone find any evidence of the supposed Dr. McNinja guest strip mentioned under webcomics? Because I can't find a single mention of it on the internet outside of this page, and I have a hard time believing that anyone would believe a strip with that concept would be a good idea.
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