You can see the reason here - the "history" button at the top of the page.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIs adding an extract from the Lonely Island song Rocky appropriate for the Quotes page? It might be fairly long, but it's a pretty effective example.
Requesting a possible rename, as the current name is offensive and can be too easily misused or taken out of context.
Suggested renamings: Overwhelming Victory or Unfair Victory, or One-sided Win
Hide / Show RepliesHuh? I don't see how it's offensive in the slightest. Also, I don't see any evidence of the latter two.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIt's not "offensive" per se, but it is a pretty unnecessarily disgusting and wretchedly macho way of naming a one-sided battle.
This trope is about one-sided battles, so the name is appropriate. Sorry, but I am not seeing why "pretty unnecessarily disgusting and wretchedly macho way" is a problem.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAm I the only one that thinks the Real Life section shouldn't exist? Looks like total flame bait.
Edited by 68.4.127.102IMO, this article's examples need to be thoroughly scrubbed. From my reading of it, this trope is about when the audience is led to believe that either A) the fight will be drawn-out/evenly matched, but then it decidedly isn't, or B) one side is heavily favored but then loses badly. However, like half of the examples in every branch ends up being "Alice is massively more powerful than Bob. Alice then beats the crap out of Bob. This is a curb-stomp battle." We need to either change the meaning of this article to basically encapsulate One Sided Battle, or do some pruning.
Hide / Show RepliesThe article itself just says that it's when the fight is extremely one-sided.
I'm a Troper!!!I don't really like the name. "Curb stomping" bring to my mind to groups taunting each other, not a beatdown. Just my two bits.
"Freedom is not a license for chaos" -Norton Juster's The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics Hide / Show RepliesFair enough, but the actual name curb stumping is literally stumping someone's face into the curb.
Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle SeriesAh.
"Freedom is not a license for chaos" -Norton Juster's The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower MathematicsShouldn't the page for Tabletop Games actually read "Tabletop Games" and not "Tabletops Games"?
Hide / Show RepliesWhere should I put a sport equivalent, because I want to add Barcelona's curb-stomp battle of Bayer Leverkusen, so where could I add it?
What's the difference between this and No-Holds-Barred Beatdown?
Edited by ACW CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts Hide / Show RepliesNo-Holds-Barred Beatdown is for the villain is pasting the hero to the floor, and the hero seems helpless to fightback.
Curb-Stomp Battle is for when the hero is given a magic plot pass to defeat the villain without the villain being able to touch him.
It's a tone thing. The NHBB is usually filled with tragedy and angst while this is when you go up to grab a coffee and some chips and know you can get back in time for the heroes congratulating each other on a victory well earned.
I think the picture currently in place comes close to Just A Face And A Caption. Yes, the two (identical!) characters are 99 levels apart in skill, but I shouldn't have to read the caption and then squint at the picture to figure out what its trying to demonstrate. Anyone agree? I'll remove it tomorrow if no one objects.
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It's amazing how many problems you can fix with a baseball bat.Sorry, new here and I don't yet know how to put pics up...
The Aron in this picture massacred an entire Lv100 team by itself (though a Tyranitar from earlier's Sand Stream finished the job) using Sturdy and Endeavor, winning 6-1 for the trainer.
Edited by FEASTY0UREYESASSILOGIN It's amazing how many problems you can fix with a baseball bat.The following was posted as a Curb-Stomp Battle. I don't think it is (and I'm not sure how anyone could) but my edit arguing that it isn't has been repeatedly removed, without any reason given, or any proof that my point is invalid. I've moved it here so that someone objective can please examine the following and tell me if it should even be on this page?
- Another instance is during the duel between Shinn and Kira, where after the initial exchange of beam rifle fire, the fight becomes a three and a half-minute long scene of Shinn shutting down all of Kira's attacks, constantly putting Kira on the defensive, countering at exactly the correct moments, and finally ramming the Freedom with an Anti-Ship Sword. Unlike most other examples on this page, however, it is widely considered to be really awesome instead of lame, possibly because 'I have studied your fighting style and figured out how to counter it' comes across better than 'I can hit harder and faster than you, so HA'.
- Not a Curb Stomp though. Kira was holding back, and trying to avoid killing Shinn, so that automatically means it shouldn't count. And on top of that, he still destroyed two of the Impulse's three forms, with the last one being totalled when the Freedom exploded. Shinn has the advantage for most of the fight, but it's hardly easy (in fact were he in a different suit he would have lost twice) and Kira still inflicts some serious damage, all without once aiming for Shinn's cockpit. People who complain about Kira' easy victory once he returns and proceeds to discard his Technical Pacifist status and try to kill Shinn (who no longer has a suit that can be repaired mid-air) should remember that.
Correct me if I'm wrong now, but the requirement for a Curb Stomp battle is that one side completely destroys the other with total ease and doesn't so much as get scratched. Now does the above sound like that? Shinn's suit is disable twice and has to be repaired in mid-air (and if it was any other suit he would have lost the first time it was disabled). It's all right to say he won the fight. It's even okay for the Kira-haters (and there's certainly a lot of them on this site) to list it as a CMOA. But a Curb Stomp, it is not. Or am I missing something here?
Hide / Show RepliesFirst off, I don't think stating the requirements for a Curb Stomp is for the losing side to never get a hit in. For example, in the Pokemon example Ash loses 6-2 to Paul. Meaning 2 of Paul's Pokemon were knocked out. In the One Piece example Luffy vs. Blueno is listed as an example, even though at one point Blueno was able to trap and disorient Luffy. The requirement is for the fight to be extremely one sided.
With that in mind, let's look at Kira's supposed disabling of Shinn's Impulse. You cannot claim that Shinn's ability to replace Impulse parts somehow invalidates the fact that Shinn can win precisely because he has that ability on hand. Crocodile vs. Luffy Round 1 is considered a Curb Stomp Battle precisely because Crocodile has a power that completely nullifies any of Luffy's attempts at an offence. If the ability was removed or disabled, then Crocodile would be a lot harder pressed, but it wasn't, and so it's a Curb Stomp Battle. (In any case, Kira should know that Shinn has a modular Gundam because he's seen it in action before, so it's his loss for not formulating a better strategy than 'aim for the limbs and wing it'.)
That said, the first time Kira scored a hit on Shinn's mech, Shinn was able to turn the situation around immediately and leave Kira in a worse position than he was before via ramming him with the Force Silhouette. The second time was after Kira was functionally defeated and running away. At neither point was Kira able to regain any momentum in the battle, so what was the point of scoring those blows?
Lastly, and nowhere near as importantly, I don't think there was any indication of Kira holding back during the fight, and if he were, it'd make for some screwy motivations: His friends on the Archangel are, as far as he knows, depending on him to be their bodyguard. Why would he be screwing around instead of fighting to the best of his ability?
Because Kira doesn't want to kill Shinn. He never aims for the cockpit and tries repeatedly to disable his mech by taking apart the arms and head. Rey and Shinn discuss that before the fight even. When they rematch, with Shinn in the Destiny and Kira in the Strike Freedom, Kira repeatedly aims for the cockpit. It's one of the reasons Shinn is so surprised that he can't beat him the second time; Kira's really trying to kill him now.
He also doesn't necessarily know the Impulse is modular; he's seen it in battle, but I don't recall Shinn ever having to switch out before while battling Kira.
As for Kira running away, I'd argue that takes away from it's status as a Curb Stomp. Kira isn't trying to fight. He's trying to get the Archangel out of ZAFT territory and then bail himself. He's got no interest in defeating Shinn and just wants to leave. He repeatedly gives up opportunities to go on the offensive in order to try and exit without having to kill anyone. Kira's objective from the start is not "beat Shinn" which should also count against it's status as a potential Curb Stomp.
Finally yes Shinn planned for Kira destroying his mech. But that doesn't mean that Kira's outmanouvering and destroying the Impulse twice is any less impressive. Heck, when the Freedom blows at the end, it takes the Impulse's third form with it. Even in show it's not treated like a Curb Stomp. Shinn looks stunned that he won, and no one acts as though it weren't an incredibly difficult battle for him. That's why everyone is so impressed. Calling it a Curb Stomp arguably takes away from the level of Shinn's accomplishment.
Anyway, removed this one again, and rewrote the rest of the Gundam Seed Destiny one's to be less venemous. And before someone asks, I didn't turn it into "rah rah Destiny" either. It now reads neutral.
Edited by AmbarSonofDesharTook out American History X. It only gets mentioned because it includes a literal curbstomp, but the scene in question is not a curbstomp battle. Daniel opens fire on some thieves, then forces one to bite the curb at gunpoint. It's not a fight scene.
Prop 8 curbstomp mention: I think someone has linked to the wrong trial decision, or possibly altered it to present the wrong trail completely. I am correcting with a link to the correct decision and the not-Strauss v. Horton trial.
Nous restons ici.I just deleted the page picture and page quote, on the grounds that neither demonstrate the trope. All they did was show one character attacking another with some effectiveness. They didn't show a Curb-Stomp Battle by any means.
See you in the discussion pages. Hide / Show RepliesThis. Not a history buff, so, what the hell is going on here?
- In the Texas War for Independence from Mexico, the Mexican army attacked the fort of San Jacinto, led by Santa Anna, and the much smaller Texan force led by General Sam Houston. Roughly 700 Mexican soldiers were killed, roughly 730 captured. 8 Texan soldiers were killed, none captured, and the battle lasted eighteen minutes. Eighteen minutes!
- That...isn't the Battle at San Jac. It wasn't a fort, it was a Mexican Army camp. The Mexicans were taking a siesta, the Texans charged out shouting "Remember the Alamo!" and curb stomped the Mexicans.
During the tank fight in Sora no Woto ep 12, I was at the edge of my seat thinking: "****, if the 'opponents' get a blow in it might all be over." It's still this trope, isn't it?
Hide / Show RepliesI haven't seen the show but I don't think so - it's only this trope if one side is actually clearly stomping all over the other. If there's any doubt whatsoever as to the outcome, or if the other side manage to get a few significant blows, it's not this trope.
Would you kill your best friend, can you save yourself?I just deleted a bunch of ones from One Piece. While the Akainu and Whitebeard fight was short, Akainu melted off a good portion of Whitebeard's face, and Whitebeard did not take Akainu out of the fight. That would be like calling the first time Akainu fought Whitebeard a curbstomp battle for Akainu.
As for the battle between Whitebeard and Blackbeard, it ended when Blackbeard and his entire crew killed Whitebeard. While Whitebeard did a ton of damage Blackbeard still won that fight.
One Sided Battle now redirects here as per this forum thread. The trope formerly known as One Sided Battle is now Pendulum War.
Would you kill your best friend, can you save yourself?
How do we deal with spoilers for this trope? A lot of examples are a huge "Wall Of Spoiler", which is bad.