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AkivaraPrime Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 26th 2022 at 5:50:01 PM •••

What's the Japanese word for this? Since "faux" is french I'm pretty sure they wouldn't use bifauxnen.

IkedaFan Since: Aug, 2011
Oct 6th 2011 at 9:00:46 PM •••

Please do not add examples of girls who simply have very short hair! I already deleted Emma Watson from the list because she's not even a Tomboy! These are not bifauxnens, just girls who like short hairstyles. You wouldn't call Hallie Berry a bifauxnen would you?

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Worldmaker Since: Jun, 2010
Oct 6th 2011 at 10:38:45 PM •••

Fan Myopia is never a pretty thing. Restored Emma Watson as an example.

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
IkedaFan Since: Aug, 2011
Oct 30th 2011 at 12:04:18 PM •••

How is Emma Watson a bifauxnen??? Please explain and show a picture. I've been a fan of hers for a longtime BECAUSE of her girlishness. It seems to me there should be a trope called Mistaken For Tomboy for girls like her.

Edited by IkedaFan
IkedaFan Since: Aug, 2011
Oct 30th 2011 at 12:10:33 PM •••

By the way, this trope is sadly misused. If you fail to prove she is this trope, I'll make a Mistaken For Tomboy trope and put her there.

Azzizzi Since: Oct, 2009
Dec 7th 2012 at 12:10:57 PM •••

I have to agree with you and the same goes for Watts in "Some Kind of Wonderful." She's a tomboy, but no one would mistake her for a boy.

BibsDibs Since: Mar, 2013
Apr 4th 2013 at 5:40:46 AM •••

Actually I don't think you have to be a tomboy to be a bifauxnen. But I do agree with you on short hair. Short hair doesn't make automatically someone a bifauxnen. There are plenty of women who have short hair and don't look like a man. In fact there are also bifauxnens with long hair. Sir Integra from Hellsing, for example, has long hair & is called "sir" and some of the fans only knew she was a female because of a flashback in the OVA and manga where she looked more feminine.

Edited by BibsDibs
AkivaraPrime Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 26th 2022 at 5:49:00 PM •••

Pretty sure bifauxnen is "looks like a bishounen but is actually a girl" so I'd say MOST bifauxnen should have long hair since most bishounen have long hair.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 10:26:46 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Crossdressing tropes in general, started by Twilightdusk on Jun 4th 2010 at 12:23:38 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 9:07:46 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Misuse, started by Raso on Aug 5th 2011 at 3:36:34 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
IukaSylvie Since: Oct, 2017
Aug 20th 2020 at 5:29:32 PM •••

What if the narrative or a character treats a transgender man as an androgynous woman?

Camacan MOD Since: Jan, 2001
May 5th 2011 at 8:50:29 PM •••

From Cowboy Bebop: assuming the natter is correct here — but please Repair Dont Respond.

  • With a guest appearance by V.T., the long-haul space trucker in episode "Heavy Metal Queen".
    • V.T.'s more a The Lad-ette. She doesn't go out of her way to hide her gender. She simply assumes the rough, tough mantle expected of a long-haul trucker.

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IukaSylvie Since: Oct, 2017
IukaSylvie Since: Oct, 2017
Jul 22nd 2020 at 6:25:30 PM •••

Do we have a gender-inverted example where a boy resembles a masculine girl in an androgynous way?

DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
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Jul 24th 2016 at 2:42:44 PM •••

I notice there's a number of examples listed of female characters in historical settings who wear male dress because "men have more freedom" or similar. The trope description seems to suggest that Bifauxnen characters aren't trying to pass as men, and that's what distinguishes this trope from Sweet Polly Oliver, or do I have that wrong?

Edited by DaibhidC
Sephonitic Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 6th 2013 at 12:03:26 AM •••

I think Ryoko Mitsurugi, in her roles as a samurai for the drama club in Samurai Girl: Real Bout High School, really cashes in on this phenomenon. Though she is good at playing it up rather than being oblivious.

MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Feb 27th 2013 at 4:49:39 PM •••

Paige was kind of going for a Bifauxnen vibe in a couple episodes of Pretty Little Liars. Her relationship with Emily has definitely been the most Yuri like.

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IkedaFan Since: Aug, 2011
Jan 19th 2012 at 10:58:25 PM •••

I took the liberty to put some misplaced real life examples under Lady Loks Like A Dude. I did so because the examples failed to meet the criteria of looking like an androgynous or Bishonen boy, not because they were not manly enough (they where quite manly btw). Sorry, but this trope needed to be cleaned up a bit!

Edited by IkedaFan
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