Discussion Film / Transformers

Any objections that the 2007 film is split to "Transformers (2007)"? It really should've been untangled from the Franchise-wise subpages a long time ago, and like how there's Film.Godzilla 1954, Film.Godzilla 1998, and Film.Godzilla 2014 with their individual subpages for the Godzilla franchise.

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Can someone create an Awesome/Heartwarming/Funny pages for just the 2007 film in particular, so as to separate it from the the franchise's pages?

For the love of god, could someone please collect the tropes into folders for [Both/all movies], [Transformers 1] and [ROTF]?! It's a goddamn archive panic out there!

Obviously, I'm not going to do it myself, at least not tonight.

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Why is it in the B-Movie list? I don't see it as a B-movie.

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For some reason, this was on the Trivia page. Anyone want to help integrate it into the right folders and ROTF/DOTM pages where relevant?

• Mythology Gag: Several:
  • In the 2007 film Optimus declares that "One shall stand, One shall fall,". This line was originally said by Optimus in the first ever Transformers movie.
  • Optimus Prime's dialogue contains lines he said in previous continuities. One in particular, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings," is the Catchphrase quote from the original toy box. This was the first time any Optimus Prime has said those words out loud. (Optimus Primal of Beast Wars was the first to say it.)
  • Bumblebee parked next to a yellow Volkswagon Beetle when at the dealership. It was his G1 alternate form.
    • Similarly, the line "you're not getting a Porsche" - because this version of Jazz is a Pontiac Solstice instead.
  • Several repetitions of "More Than Meets The Eye"
  • The scene of Optimus scanning the truck is taken right out of the second episode of Transformers Armada.
  • In ROTF, Jetfire knows Prime can't win against the Fallen without a major upgrade, and thus gives up his spark and parts to give Optimus just that. The result is that they effectively combine into a Super Mode. Now where have we seen this before?
  • Early in ROTF, an Allspark fragment turns every appliance in the Witwicky kitchen into a Transformer - the trash compactor ends up resembling the Sharkticons from G1, noted for having More Teeth than the Osmond Family.
  • Early in ROTF, Epps asks Galloway: if God made humans in His image, who made the Transformers? In most continuities, the creator of the Transformer race is Primus, a god who converted his body into the planet Cybertron and created the Transformers from his own body.
  • Not too sure about this one, but Megatron says "Yessssss" twice during conversations with The Fallen.
  • The Matrix of Leadership makes an appearance, this time with more backstory than its original incarnation. Unfortunately, it sure doesn't resemble the cartoon versions in appearance or function.
  • Slag, Beast Wars gets a shout out. The Franchise's top TWO Crowning Moments of Awesome are when a lone hero defends the human race against genocidal Cons but tragically falls. Debate rages which is more awesome, but the Beasties' is far more heart-wenching.
  • "Seekers" originated as a fandom term for all of the Starscream repaints (Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet) or sometimes for the Decepticon fliers in general. ROTF gives a new meaning to the term, describing older Transformers like Jetfire who had a specific purpose to scout out planets.
  • During Simmons' exposition about the Seekers, he refers to them as "Robots...in disguise...", another part of the catch phrase.
  • Promotional material for the movie lists Shockwave's primary weapon as an Astro Mag cannon. The pre-G1 toy that was eventually used to create Shockwave was called the 'Astro Magnum'.
  • Megatron destroys the Lincoln memorial statue and uses its chair as a throne. This is a nod to the G1 episode "Atlantis, Arise!", though he politely removed the statue in that one.
  • Cybertron is brought to Earth's location via space bridge ("The Ultimate Doom")
  • Decepticons take over a city, doing major damage to it, though in the old show it was New York rather than Chicago ("City of Steel")
  • The Autobots are forced to leave Earth by the Decepticons, who then destroy their ship, leaving them all presumed dead. They then proceed to show up and save the day ("Megatron's Master Plan")
  • Sentinel Prime's rust-inducing weapon was inspired by another G1 episode, "Cosmic Rust".
  • Optimus Prime's new trailer functions as a weapons platform, like it did in G1, but also provides a jetpack and weapon upgrades, like the one in Transformers Cybertron.
  • Megatron being the one who provides the means to Sentinel Prime's defeat is somewhat fitting, seeing as though in almost all previous versions of the G1 characters, Megatron is the one who is responsible for Sentinel Prime's death.
• Shout-Out: In the movie, when the Allspark fragment activates at the Witwicky residence, a bunch of the kitchen appliances come alive and start chasing Sam. One of them, a toaster (who featured in a tie-in ad campaign with the previous film) got a toy. His bio indicates that his Courage is 10 (out of 10).
  • HIS COURAGE IS MAXIMUM
  • Did anyone else see the baby Killer Rabbit?
  • The sequel shows that Sam's roommate has a Naruto poster. There are also unmissable posters for Cloverfield (also distributed by Paramount) and Bad Boys II (a previous Bay film).
  • The sequel also has Bumblebee using a voice clip of Dr. Kleiner: "All that we've been working for will be lost in a single day!"
  • "This is easily a hundred times cooler than Armageddon!"
  • Alice's robot form and transformation are very reminiscent of Sil from Species.
  • Skids and Mudflap's robot modes may be inspired partially by Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann! While lots of Transformers with car altmodes have their headlights on their chest in robot mode, in these guys' case their chests really look like faces.
  • In Dark of the Moon, Sentinel Prime says that "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
  • The job application montage in Dark of the Moon is set to "Sweet Emotion", which was also used for the training montage in Armageddon.

Alright, the folder sorting is finally done...hopefully I got everything where it needs to go. I'm still not happy with the name of the first folder, but I'm stumped for alternatives right now.

DOTM should have [Take That] as a trope. A lot of the reviews I have read have commented that this is Michael Bay answering all the criticisms of the past two movies.

And remember Wheelie's off-hand comment about Sam's last girlfriend being a mean one? That was probably a [Leaning On The Fourth Wall] reference to Megan Fox bad-mouthing Michael Bay, which had her being booted off the franchise.

"Predictably, the film has been receiving mixed-to-negative reviews so far. Possibly more polarizing than the previous movie, general consensus seems to be that it's an improvement over ROTF, but how much is a subject of debate."

Er, the film has barely even came out. It hasn't even been released Nationwide yet. Acording to the other Wiki, Both IGN and another news thing, forgot the name, is calling it the best in the franchise, with only Rotten Tomatos reviewing it Mixed to Negative.

Why is it being reffered to being Mixed to negative when only one site, which is known to be unneedingly critical of some things and has negatively reviewed some truely awesome films, when two other sites, and possibly others, are reffering to it as a Suprisingly Improved Sequel?

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On the new trailer...is that Unicron?

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How is The Fallen Too Dumb to Live? He only lost because of events that were basically impossible to predict!

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Dealing with the Unpleasable Fanbase example, it seemed that one editor took it kind of personal and claimed the movies didn't follow any sense of internal logic regarding whether Optimus or Megatron were better than one another.

Just to comment on that, the movies follow a skill-level formula that is more complicated than "X is better than Y." Actual strategy matters and the circumstances of the battle will determine who wins, that's why human soldiers actually have a chance. Optimus is the superior warrior but his concern for civilian casualties hampers his ability to put up a fight. Megatron can push Prime to his limits but his battle-lust makes him clumsy and unfocused. In a crowded city street Megatron had the advantage, in an empty forest (or Egyptian ruins) Optimus brings his A game.

So... Sector Seven uses the totally-not-Descriptive Names "Sectors Even" and "S7 Industries" as fronts for their "undercover" and "public" operations, respectively. (See here)

My Questions:

1. What tropes apply for Sector Seven's... naming sense?
2. How do you have a "undercover" front for a secret organization?

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Wait... Mixmaster?

In failing to follow that whole destructive aesthetic, that has to be up there with Reedman in "Aerith and Bob" territory.

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At tfwiki.net, the article for Devastator says that the reference to one of ILM's computers destroying itself trying to render Devastator was a mixture of exaggeration and a prank played on one of the animators. With this in mind, can the references to this be removed from the article, or have the issue summed up under an appropriate trope?

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H Ey, i do not know exactly how to add a trope to this movie but i have one

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After the computer on air force one is taken down it lands. Upon landing it becomes a KC-135 jet, a older model too due to the small engines. You can plainly see the boom as well in the shot. Painted like Air Force One, but not the same.

I don't suppose there's a trope for the Autobots having animal-themed faces? (Optimus/eagle, Ironhide/bull, Ratchet/baboon, Jazz/fox, Bumblebee/raccoon)

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I have to call Fridge Brilliance on the humor, juvenile as it was. Going into it, I think people expected a serious attempt at humor, that would either work nicely or fail hard. Since humor is about the unspected, it Tooka Third Option and had peeing robots and Extremely Awkward Parents.