The J-Raff
Not sure if this was quite appropriate for the YMMV tab, but, did anyone else think it was a huge snub that this movie didn't even get a nomination for Visual Effects at the Oscars? I mean, Inception had the win in the bag... that was clear. But some recognition for Scott Pilgrim would've been nice.
Its unique use of special effects was really refreshing in an era where most action movies are still ripping off The Matrix. And my heart was broken even further when I watched behind-the-scenes stuff on the blu-ray and saw how much love went into the making of the movie... from both the actors and edgar wright's team. Only for the movie to flop. Sigh.
hey, I'm J-Raff. I like Japanese RP Gs and the music of T. Rex.
I think Your Cheating Heart doesn't cover enough of the 'Scott Cheated on Knives' deal, since it was mostly innocent (at least from Scott's perspective). From his POV it's not such a big deal and the sooner everyone would forget about it the better it is for him. My issue is that the most Knives and Scott did while 'dating' is hold hands and hug. Knives only kissed him after he'd had his night with Ramona and he wasn't mature enough to be honest then so he ran away. Whatever the issue, this qualifies for Sympathetic Adulterer and possibly Good Adultery, Bad Adultery. Objections?
Just wanted to put here that Young Neil doesn't put Gideon's gum in his mouth; he puts a coin in there, wanting to make sure it's not chocolate.
Having looked at the deleted/alternative footage for the film, it just occurred to me that the scene immediately after Scott goes through his revival montage looks strangely familiar. Instead of fast-forwarding straight to Scott starting "Level 7" again, it starts with Scott again walking in on Wallace and the other guy having sex. Then, the screen is black, as Scott explains that he has been going on a journey, and he now knows who he is fighting for. He then starts talking to Gideon on the phone, and he gets 700 points after hanging up. After that scene, the movie continued as normal...but I distinctly recall, having been in the theaters, having seen the black screen and heard the journey speech before the second round on Level 7. Every scene up to and beyond that point on the DVD release is exactly how I had seen it in theaters, but I swear that I have seen that deleted scene before in the theaters. Did anyone else notice this?
This is incredibly minor, but this is my first time actually adding a trope here and I think I might be a bit confused as to whether or not I got the right trope. I just added under Mythology Gag that Ramona's hair colors are the same colors as the Cornettos in Edgar Wright's Blood and Ice Cream trilogy
, is that the right place?
That was good, but we should have an article here about the trilogy.
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A boy and his brain.
Something of note to me; given how many times Todd gets called out for knocking the highlights out of Knives, it never seems to get mentioned what came a mere split second before said punch. Said event being that, rather than merely get up and punch her out of nowhere, Todd actually gets a nod from Envy, basically telling him to knock her out. This gets proven -to me, at least- when Envy welcomes him back to the couch with a pleased disposition. I'm not going to go around and rewrite every mention of it, but I think it deserves mention considering the Double Standard that seems tied to the event. Should this get brought up, does it have any effect, or should it just be ignored?
I'm bored. Could I break your mind to pass the time?
Is Knives's role really larger in the movie than in the novels? Discounting volume 6 (Amazon was a bit late and I don't have it yet), it seems more like the novels Knives has an array of major scenes (which focus mainly on her, such as the hair-coloring, etc.) and minor scenes (she's not very focused on, i.e. hanging with the gang at Sneaky Dee's). A good deal of her major scenes got into the movie, but a good deal were wholly cut (the Mr. Chau subplot, the Knives/Ramona fight in the library) and very few of the minor ones were present at all (most of the scenes where she hangs out with the band casually like Sneaky Dee's or the beach, and she might as well not have a family). She actually comes across as a more important presence to the main group in the novels than in the movie, since in the novels she hangs out with them outside of gig-related contexts several times.
tl;dr I think Knives's role was actually somewhat diminished in the movie and I'd like to remove the bit on the page that says otherwise, any objections?
Azor Ahai
I saw that my example of All Gays are Promiscuous was deleted. While granted, Wallace is the only gay character (to display this behavior), it really did stand out to me that idea noted under Double Standard that it's ok/normal/usual for a gay person to date multiple people at once. That definitely sounds like the All Gays are Promiscuous trope is assumed to be reality.
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What the heck do we do with music? It says Crowning stuff goes to the Crowning page, but there is no such thing as a specific Crowning Music page.
Movie wise, that is. This is fairly odd as, the Comic Book has crowning music, the Video Game has crowning music, but the Movie keeps getting it removed. I'm confused.
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There is a crowning music namespace. Here: CrowningMusic.Scott Pilgrim Vs The World
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Buh. I guess i'd have to learn how to proper start a page and stuff, but music isn't even listed on the top right of a page, with Awesome/Funny/Heartwarming. Will that be rectified in the future or something?
And in this case would it be fine to add Crowning Music and put a link to that page? Just, kind of confused and trying to make sure I don't mess up and have a bunch of effort wasted.
Made the page, added it to film... i'm not sure whether or not to edit out the other two comic, and game, though.
This mysterious note in the source:
Not interested in Hatedom, thanks. It's not a trope.
The Hatedom page would beg to differ. Was there a problem with Natter or Complaining or is someone just being protective?
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Similarly, "Narm has its own page. It doesn't go here." No it doesn't...
Fast Eddie put those notes there. Hatedom is technically a trope, but putting it there just incites natter, I guess. Narm in fact does have its own page, but it's not linked to the namespace, presumably to avoid Complaining About Shows You Dont Like.
The blind man walking off the cliff is not making a leap of faith.
People have been using Hatedom and Narm as a thin excuse to get their bash on for the work. Not interested.
Another way to look at it is that the work does not contain examples of these things. It is the target of them. The examples go with Hatedome and Narm, not here.
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Is that standard practice now then, not to include examples of those tropes on work pages? If not, I don't see anything wrong with a brief
- Narm: Some viewers have this reaction to the more Melodramatic moments of the film - others contend that this is the whole point"
...and we could always keep the editing note saying "Please refrain from elaborating on this, take it to the Narm trope page". I loved the film myself, but it's always interesting to see other people's alternate reactions. as long as they're expressed coherently.
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Is it really Scott who says "Open your eyes, maybe you'll see"? It makes a hell of a lot more sense for it to be him, and I'm pretty sure the shot was on him when that line is delivered, but whenever I listen to "Slick" it just sounds identical to Patel's voice to me.
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Scott says that line in the comic, so while there's definitely some weird distortion that makes Cera's voice sound oddly similar to Bhabha's, I'm fairly certain it is indeed Scott.
The blind man walking off the cliff is not making a leap of faith.
Andyzero: Is there a reason we're not tying the movie to the original source? Because that's what the Film button is for. It ties nicely to characters, WMG, and other associated links as well.
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alliterator: It is tied to the original source: if you go the Scott Pilgrim page, there is a button for "Film." That redirects to this. It's just that the film is called Scott Pilgrim Vs The World and the comic book called Scott Pilgrim.
Yes, and then the Film entry didn't have those sections. Very well, it's inelegant, but I'll do redirects on WMG, Just Bugs Me, and Characters to link to the original series.
I'm relatively new. Is there a way to link to share the Crowning pages with the books (since the only entries thus far are related to the film), or create new pages just for the movie?
I tried doing a redirect at Funny/Ptitle1i6llk4q, and putting an entry under crowning moment of Funny, but it doesn't put the link in.
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Just needed to set the page type to 'work.' All good, now.
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So...Is it just me, or did anyone else hate this movie? I'm sorry, but I felt like I was watching Twilight for dudes. A similar love triangle, similarly bad acting, just more hammy and/or dull, a similarly stupid plot. Or am I alone on this one?
Name's Joe, nerdy stuff.