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Jul 27th 2021 at 12:36:27 PM •••

And today I turn my giant editing ray to this page.

I moved Tomas to the very end because he's an NPC, and Jeritza below the rest because he's route-exclusive. I also spoiler-tagged Jeritza's personal skill and changed a few instances of "Mercedes" to "his sister" to make other spoiler tags unncesessary.


Tropes I removed:

Manuela

  • Buxom Is Better: Given her wardrobe, her man-searching ways, and the fact that she (according to game data) has even larger breasts than Female Byleth, she fits this trope.

This trope is about the in-universe belief that bra size is directly proportional to attractiveness.

  • (Hidden Depths)
    She's also surprisingly perceptive in other ways too; she's the only person to ever notice how fortuitous Garreg Mach's location turned out to be, given that it was constructed centuries before the Kingdom and Alliance fractured off from the Empire. She recognizes the location makes sense as it's incredibly defensible but it still ended up smack dab in the middle of the three nations of modern Fódlan before two of them even existed. Almost as though it was planned, though Manuela doesn't get that far.

This is a red herring.

  • The Lad-ette: She's a bit of a slob, her room being so messy that men don't want to go in it, and she even eats food that fell on the floor. She also sometimes drinks to the point of collapse. This seems to be one reason why she's having a hard time finding a significant other. As she tends to drink more when a date has gone badly, in order to forget the sadness, it becomes something of a vicious cycle.

She's too feminine. The trope here is Hard-Drinking Party Girl, which is already on the page.

  • Last Girl Wins: From a gameplay perspective. On the Azure Moon and Verdant Wind routes, she is the last potential love interest for Male Byleth to join the party.

This is a harem trope that doesn't apply because Byleth's spouse is decided by the player.

Hanneman

  • (Age-Gap Romance)

  • No Place for Me There: Feels this way regarding Enbarr, stating that he swore to never return there, and being rather amused about the fact he would be returning to invade it if recruited on non-Edelgard routes.

This trope is about somebody doing bad things to create a utopia, in the knowledge that they themselves will have no place in that utopia.

  • Right Under Their Noses: Not Prof. Hanneman himself, but what he is doing, after having seen his sister suffer and vowing to negate the impact of crests on society, decides to go into service of the church, working directly under Rhea's nose and using the church's resources to dismantle the Crest system, the very same system that she and the church are consciously upholding and led to the death of Hanneman's sister. Downplayed in that he does not inherently see the church or Rhea as his enemies, rather he sees the excessive desire for Crests as a problem and even notes in his support with Edelgard that undoing the church's influence will not remove the influence of Crests. His goal is to make the powers of Crests available to anyone who wants them, but admits that Edelgard's desire to remove Crests entirely would have a similar end result.

The Crest system isn't actually Church policy - the doctrine is that Crest bearers are blessed, but have a responsibility to use that blessing for the good of all. There's no evidence that Rhea would is unaware of what he's doing or that she would object to dismantling of the system.

Jeritza

  • Ambiguous Disorder: Zig-Zagged. Initially, his aloof personality and difficulty expressing himself suggest something is off with him, which gets further supported when its revealed he's the Death Knight. Initially, this suggests he's a sociopath. However, his supports with Mercedes and Byleth outright avert this; he very clearly suffers from dissociative identity disorder, treating the Death Knight as a second person within himself.

This isn't ambiguous. He straight-up has dissociative personality disorder.

  • Depraved Bisexual: Downplayed as 1. the "depraved" part mostly comes from his Superpowered Evil Side, and 2. male Byleth seems to be a case of If It's You, It's Okay for him whereas the few other supports he has are with females, but he still really enjoys murdering people and gets giddy at the thought of Byleth ending him, regardless of gender. On Crimson Flower, he gets better, mostly shedding the "depraved" part.

This trope is really for bisexuality as a depravity, whereas it's incidental to Jeritza.

  • (Foreshadowing)
    • The fact that he has a Crest of Lamine, the same one as Mercedes, suggests that they are related in some way. At first this isn't significant, but as Mercedes' family originally came from the Adrestian Empire, it directly connects him to Empire, which he fights for after the timeskip.

You can't find out which Crest he has until after you've found out he's the Death Knight.

  • He and Mercedes have something in common. They both tie their hair with black ribbons.
This has nothing to do with being the Death Knight.

  • Last Guy Wins: On the Crimson Flower route, he is the last potential love interest for either gender Byleth to join the party.

This is a harem trope that doesn't apply when you can choose who Byleth marries.

  • Not So Different: Jeritza is very similar to Dimitri. His murders of others being born out of his compassion and love for those they care about. Notably, Mercedes is sympathetic to both and can support them (though on separate routes), knowing that their love for others is what guided their hand, and the regret they feel over doing it leads them down paths that wittle away at their mental health. They even share lances and swords as default weapon proficiencies, and lightning-related spells as Reason magic of choice (though Jeritza is skilled better at magic compared to Dimitri).

This trope is about characters realising they're more similar than they thought.

  • What Happened to the Mouse?: After chapter 6 and the implication he may be the Death Knight, he vanishes for the rest of the game and doesn't reappear. It's only in a paralogue after the timeskip that unlocks a picture in Azure Moon that almost certainly implies he's the Death Knight, but this is only unlocked if you have both Mercedes and Caspar, meaning unless you spent time recruiting you likely will never see it. Should you do the Crimson Flower route however, he wll reappear and become a playable unit in Part II.

He appears multiple times as a boss in part 2. He is the Death Knight, remember.

Tomas

  • Ascended Extra: He gets a bit more screentime on the Golden Deer route.

What game was he previously an extra in, from which he ascended to prominence in Three Houses?

Cyril

  • Last Guy Wins: On the Silver Snow route, he is the last potential love interest for female Byleth to join the party, tied with Seteth.

Harem trope, doesn't apply when the player chooses who Byleth marries.

  • Nay-Theist:
    • Reveals to Mercedes in their support that he isn't a believer in the Church of Seiros, and his service to the church stems from his gratitude to Rhea. Rhea is aware of this and quite supportive.
    • Although interestingly enough in his paired ending with Petra, Cyril grows up to become a Priest. Presumably the reformations the Church undergoes in non-Crimson Flower route spurred Cyril to become an actual legitimate believer in the Church.

This isn't Naytheism; Cyril just follows a different religion, like Dedue, Petra, Shamir, and Claude. Especially Claude.

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AvalancheMKII Since: Oct, 2018
Nov 16th 2020 at 12:07:14 AM •••

No idea if this is the appropriate place to bring this up, but Manuela does not learn the Rescue Spell. I'm assuming the article is attempting to reference the Warp Spell, but I just wanted to clear up some confusion.

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