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"Also, very petty move, holding the entry for 20 minutes to prevent editing."
Somebody should tell Dark that's how every single edit works.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Unless they were suggesting someone actually held the page on the editing screen until the lock wound down.
^ Which, yeah, would actually be a dick move. I've done it before against vandals, but in normal editing disputes, it'd be rude. If that's what actually happened. (It could've also just taken Alpha 20 minutes to do the edit without them intentionally holding it on the lock.)
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What is the policy for troping trailers? I'd assume allowing people to do that would be a magnet for Speculative Troping.
^ Actually, according to the policy on unreleased works, we're supposed to be troping the promotional material...with a catch. We trope it as it's own work, hence why we need citations.
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Bumping this to say Dark and Alpha are still at it.
Dark added Cozy Mystery, Alpha deleted it with "Speculation, Weasel Words. Examples don't have "elements" of being examples. They are or they aren't."
Dark added a revised entry with "source was provided last time so not speculative, sorry that actually rewording it was apparently too much work for you so i went ahead and did it."
Alpha deleted this as well. "The game has not come out. Any statement about the game is inherently speculative. Stick to listing tropes that take place entirely within content that has been released. Thank you."
So Dark is still being snarky and rude, Alpha is still deleting instead of commenting out, and both are still edit warring.
They are now suspended.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I do wonder if the citation rule should be better clarified. People keep misunderstanding it, and continue to use it to justify speculative examples. The intent of the rule is to trope the trailer as an independent work that may or may not be indicative of the actual product.
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^^ You know, I'm thinking the same thing.
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
I've brought it up in the thread
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Gonna bump this because the page is seeing the same problems again. It's also pretty transparent that Alphatater has switched to using Raito; not sure if their ban was lifted or not, but same person doing the same thing in either case.
IIRC Alphatater never showed up to discuss their suspension, so yeah, looks like they're ban-evading—fairly recent account, same pattern of edits on the page.
Hmm, now that I think of it, maybe an IP check is in order?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Might want a new thread at this point.
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I have just created a new thread for the potential ban evasion.
Handled in the other thread.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
So recently Life Is Strange: True Colors had its trailer release. Unfortunately, as usually happens with unreleased works, the page is dealing with issues regarding what is considered speculation and what isn't. Specifically, two Tropers are edit-warring over context.
Dark added three tropes (Aura Vision, Color-Coded Emotions, and Psychic Powers) with the edit reason, "Adding some tropes very definitely shown in the trailer."
Alphaeater hid them all for not having citations.
Dark un-hid them with the reason, "Ah, the fun police are here."
Alphaeater outright deleted the tropes with the reason, "Do not unhide hidden entries without fixing them."
Dark re-added them all. "I did, by changing the "in this game" to "in this game's trailer" but I guess that's just not good enough, so here. Also, one of the ones you deleted literally has "based on the trailer in it", so why was that one also deleted?"
Alphaeater hid the Color-Coded Emotions entry with the reason, "Where / how do these colors appear? How are they associated with emotions?" Note the example itself reads Based on what's seen in the trailer, red is anger, blue is sadness, yellow is joy, and purple is fear.
Dark added more context but with the reason, "Context clues. Also, very petty move, holding the entry for 20 minutes to prevent editing. Jesus effing christ, dude, go hall monitor somewhere else."
Since then, other Tropers have added Tropes to the page. Alphaeater outright deleted some and hid others out for being ZCE—although they didn't leave an edit reason explaining their deletions.
Following this, Dark added a note to the top of the page: "Remember to add a citation, even if it's blatantly obvious from context clues, or the hall monitors with nothing better to do will hide your entry!" Their edit reason: "please go away or do something actually useful, like adding context despite the entry being perfectly readable and comprehendible without the extra wording."
So we have an edit war going on, and honestly I'm finding issues with both Tropers here. Most obviously Dark is being pretty rude and petty in their edit reasons, and I'm going to go ahead and delete the petty note on the page. On the other hand Alphaeater is sometimes not communicating their reasons for deleting entries—and these deletions seem unnecessary, as they can simply hide them until proper citations are added.