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No, changing the description without concensus is frowned upon, especially if it changes the core of the trope. Make a thread on the Trope Repair Shop if you think the trope description is fundamentally broken.
If you want to discuss the trope and applications without recommending action, make a thread on Trope Talk. However, that forum is not for proto-trs attempts.
If you're going to make huge changes to the description that alters the meaning, it might be better to start a thread in the forums to seek consensus. Maybe start one in Trope Talk
, and then take it either to Trope Repair Shop or Short-Term Projects depending on how the discussion goes.
The trope's discussion page could also work, but most people won't see it unless they're watching the page.
Edited by supergod For we shall slay evil with logic...
I don't think the trope discussion page is the right place to build consensus for redefining the trope. TRS seems like a better place.
Redefining tropes is a trope repair shop function.
1) Write a very compelling reason for the redefinition or the thread won't be unlocked.
2) Be prepared to do/help with wick cleanup.
3) If TRS is too crowded to open the thread, you can speed it up by helping with the grunt work of wick cleanup of the results of other threads.
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Alright. The "intro" thread (or something like that) seemed to have a huge list of things that were too minor to make a thread, and it said to post in some other thread, and I did, and... got ignored. So If I can make a thread for this... (if the thread gets closed for being too minor...)
I made this Idolized Julius Kingsley icon back when Akito first came out, and now that the crossover is actually happening, I don't care.
This has been opened in TRS -courtesy link. Requesting a threadlock over here.
The "Idol Singer" trope is not accurate. The description is... outdated, I guess? In any case, the sort of thing it describes is not what modern idol anime are (and we are talking about this as a trope). First of all, the whole "always female" thing - you might not have noticed (since fans outside of Japan tend to be incredibly dismissive of this sort of thing), but there's a huge male idol show trend recently. Marginal #4, Tsukiuta (which does not have a page), B Project, and many others, on top of the long-running Uta No Prince Sama. They sort of outnumber female idol series - actually, Idolm@ster is making an anime of it's "Side M" game soon. The stuff about "can't sing" "ruthlessly discarded" "broken birds"... that's just negative. Sure, that applies to many characters, but it's not a necessary aspect of idol stories. A lot of idol shows actually show the characters having a lot more creative control than they would in real life. This needs re-writing. Would that be okay?