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WaterBlap Since: May, 2014
22nd Mar, 2017 12:14:26 PM

IMO, the logic seems consistent. "My father was killed by Bison and I don't complain about it. Your father was killed by Bison and you do complain about it. I don't understand why you would complain about it." I'm not very familiar with Street Fighter, but isn't Bison a sociopath who doesn't understand other people outside of the context of means to his ends? (The Sociopath is on his entry on the character page)

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Madrugada MOD Since: Jan, 2001
22nd Mar, 2017 12:17:50 PM

Yeah, the chain of logic isn't flawed the way it needs to be for Insane Troll Logic. The premise is utterly wrong, but the logic is not.

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LadyJaneGrey Since: Sep, 2015
22nd Mar, 2017 01:01:57 PM

Uh, I'd think that if he's insane, and trolling the listener with an attempt at flawed logic, it fits, but I guess....

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WaterBlap Since: May, 2014
22nd Mar, 2017 01:10:01 PM

For clarification, the page states "Remember that not all bad or faulty logic is Insane Troll Logic. ... usually either the presenter or the audience have no grasp of even the concept where the 'logic' should apply." So in the Bison example, because we can see the chain of logic, we can say it isn't Insane Troll Logic even if it is "crazy-sounding trolling logic."

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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
22nd Mar, 2017 03:03:18 PM

To elaborate what the previous tropers are saying, to be an example of Insane Troll Logic the logic of the argument must be insane (that is, not logic at all). In this case, the argument, or at least the conclusion, may seem insane, but the logic of the argument is not crazy enough. Now, if he'd said "My father's name was Roger, so I can't understand why you're complaining that I killed your father", that would be Insane Troll Logic.

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Madrugada MOD Since: Jan, 2001
22nd Mar, 2017 04:35:16 PM

Lady Jane Grey: don't ever go just by the trope's name. most tropes have more complexity than we can fit into a short name.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Candi Since: Aug, 2012
22nd Mar, 2017 06:47:59 PM

ITL would be an example I added a long time ago now, where G-Force: Guardians of Space's Dr. Brighthead tells the team that Galactor is stealing sugar because 'if your parents couldn't give you sugar, wouldn't you go to someone who could?" (Seriously.) NVM sugar is a very valuable resource.

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