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I note that Reyn's
edit to Genre Deconstruction makes zero sense in terms of what a "deconstruction" actually is.
Do you have a list of some of the folks doing this? Or is a cursory glance at the history all we need to know?
I know demongodofchaos2 was at least vocal about it counted as Darker and Edgier. This kind of topic also affected the YMMV and Nightmare Fuel Pages, but the related edits were buried in the history. Of the recent 10 edits on the main page only the Genre Deconstruction (By Reyn Time 250 ) remains relevant to the topic What Art Thee posits.
TBH, I feel like Deconstruction should be treated like Unfortunate Implications in that it requires a source to be cited to count. Since the trope is supposed to be about how the conventions of a genre would realistically play out, but the way i see it it feels kinda shoehorned most of the time. I fear it could reach a point where everyone would claim stuff like "this is not a Sugar Bowl where Everyone Lives, its clearly a deconstruction!" (Doesn't help that the most cited cases of Deconstruction, Evangalion, Madoka and Watchmen, tend to be pretty dark)
This specific case feels more like a shoehorn, as the Mons genre was Deconstructed since birth and this reads more like franchise deconstruction instead.
Edited by MorningStar1337
I disagree about needing citation, but the thing is these entries are wholly unrelated to Genre Deconstruction unless Genre Deconstruction means... actually, I honestly am not sure what it could mean to make that addition make sense.
And yeah, Mons and Genre Deconstruction has the weirdest relationship.
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If they're adding them back instead of participating in discussion, that's problematic in and of itself.
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Put commented out notes when removing problem examples to the discussion page.
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Commented out the Darker and Edgier examples, and pulled the Genre Deconstruction examples to a separate discussion. The trope may apply, but those examples are so poorly written they're for all intents and purposes a ZCE.
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Reyn Time 250 ust added them back without permission, AND added a comparison to Digimon Tamers (?)
And this may sound odd, but i'm convinced that the people adding them back might be the same person. Same writing style, add the same edits...
If something doesn't have a darker TONE, it's not Darker and Edgier, fair and simple.
Edited by WhatArtThee Just another day in the life of Jimmy Nutrin
I think Reyn needs a tap on the shoulder from a mod. He's readded the examples several times now, ignoring ongoing discussion each time, and it is clear he has no idea what deconstruction means. Or, for that matter, genre.
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Looks like edit warring to me. I'll issue a suspension, then see if there's socking involved.
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geekgecko is also edit-warring.
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Please be more specific.
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Errr... yeah. I'm not seeing it. He hasn't edited the page this month. He's participating in the discussion, and while I disagree with him, that's definitely a good thing.
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Actually, looking through his edit history, you're right. Must've been confusing him with someone else. He did make edits to the anime page, but didn't do as many as I thought.
Sorry about that.
Edited by WhatArtThee Just another day in the life of Jimmy Nutrin
Again, specifics would help.
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Right now there's lots of debate as to whether or not various tropes count for Pokemon Sun and Moon. I'm trying to take it to the discussion page, but people keep adding them back anyway.