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SkylaNoivern Since: Sep, 2016
27th Nov, 2021 11:59:52 AM

UPDATE: I have added the updated header to every Hitman page besides the Side Characters pages themselves, as I feel editing a page when there's an issue might not be good practice.

GoldenCityBird Since: Oct, 2018
27th Nov, 2021 12:00:56 PM

This is not the first time they've created pages like this: Medieval Cop The Invidia Games Characters, for instance, is full of empty folders, and other Medieval Cop character pages still have the "some caption text" caption under the images. They also added headers to them that ask for others to not edit them.

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
27th Nov, 2021 12:03:24 PM

I see this alot when tropers feel that their favorite work deserves to have completely separate subpages and folders to show how important the work is.

I'm sending a rudeness notifier for the commented out note in case one hasn't been sent.

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Hello83433 (Lucky 7)
27th Nov, 2021 12:37:34 PM

Well, that's not how this wiki works. TV Tropes is a collaborative effort. If this person wants to create pages they themselves edit alone they should be using their sandbox. Actually, they should probably be using a sandbox anyway, so that they have a valid page before publishing it. I'm not even sure why you would want to edit a page by yourself?

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HMSquared Since: Nov, 2018
27th Nov, 2021 01:04:56 PM

As a fan of the Hitman games, I would say having folders for every single NPC is unnecessary. The fact that they're blank only furthers the issue.

Ducksrulesoon 44 also put a note saying the page is under construction, which seems weird.

SkylaNoivern Since: Sep, 2016
27th Nov, 2021 02:03:32 PM

Another thing of note - The list of the empty folder includes things like bodyguards and nameless characters (like I said above, some of whom don't even have much dialogue or characterization), and there are a lot of Flat Character links. It very much feels like a quantity over quality thing.

SkylaNoivern Since: Sep, 2016
27th Nov, 2021 04:38:25 PM

So should I remove the Flat Character and empty entries citing this thread?

laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
27th Nov, 2021 05:04:02 PM

The folders should definitely be deleted, but I fear that Ducksrulesoon 44 will just put it right back in.

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Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
27th Nov, 2021 05:10:02 PM

Go ahead and remove them.

Bubblepig (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
27th Nov, 2021 05:49:03 PM

Someone needs to clean up Medieval Cop The Invidia Games Characters page, including the note.

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GoldenCityBird Since: Oct, 2018
28th Nov, 2021 02:22:35 AM

I've deleted the empty folders from the Hitman 2 & 3 pages. I haven't tackled the Hitman 2016 page yet - many of the folders only have one trope, most of which are generic to NPCs in the games as a whole (Mugged for Disguise, Flat Character, Video Game Cruelty Potential, ect.). Should these be cut?

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WiryAiluropodine Since: Sep, 2017
28th Nov, 2021 03:58:21 AM

Hi.

Given that Ducksrulesoon 44 was taking his sweet time adding context to empty folders, I decided to do the job myself. While I agree that quite a few of the NP Cs listed didn't need folders, I felt that at least some of the NPC folders that were removed could have been provided with more context in the future.

WiryAiluropodine Since: Sep, 2017
28th Nov, 2021 03:59:51 AM

On a side note, the links that I put to the other pages are all stuck on Hitman 3. Does anyone know how to change that?

WiryAiluropodine Since: Sep, 2017
28th Nov, 2021 04:16:25 AM

In terms of who I think should have been kept: Hitman 2 Albert Noah, Derek Mc Innis, Maxwell Rutter, Antoine Mack, Bhavin Sagar, Soham Hussain, Mira Kham, James Batty, Jose Alvarez, Dale Anderson, Axel Phinigger, Constantin, “Original Five” (maybe merge with Block), Marek Sinclar, William Garret, Ruby Red, Dr. Singh, Hilda Sorbetto

Hitman 3 Richard Voltaire, Leonard Parsons, Junli Xu, Pablo Llosa and Miguel Llosa, Kenneth Flowers

Admittedly some of these NP Cs may not actually be important enough to deserve their own folders. What I do know is that silvio caruso, a You Tuber, has done quite a few videos on the dialogue within the World of Assassination trilogy, with a few of these listed NP Cs being the focus of a few of their videos.

GoldenCityBird Since: Oct, 2018
28th Nov, 2021 04:25:13 AM

Feel free to recreate them at, for example Sandbox.Hitman 2 Side Characters. Non-sandbox namespaces shouldn't be used for work-in-progress stuff.

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