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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
17th Nov, 2021 01:31:02 PM

That's worrying. I've summoned them.

jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
17th Nov, 2021 01:47:35 PM

...He's objectively speaking a villain. This is weird.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
17th Nov, 2021 02:17:40 PM

We looking at getting a page revert done once this is settled?

Excessive-Menace (Not-So-Newbie)
17th Nov, 2021 02:19:10 PM

Likely so. That username combined with their edits is already a red flag to me.

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Cutegirl920fire (Rule of Three)
17th Nov, 2021 02:21:24 PM

Yeah, I have a feeling that this might be a Single-Issue Wonk Troper. Hold off from summoning them and try to get a revert.

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
17th Nov, 2021 02:27:17 PM

I already did summon them, though, as mentioned above. Maybe it was a bad move, but it's been made.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
17th Nov, 2021 02:39:01 PM

I could revert it right now if you want. In fact, Imma go do that.

Bubblepig (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
17th Nov, 2021 02:41:52 PM

What should I notify the op with?

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
17th Nov, 2021 02:43:56 PM

When you say "op", do you mean Megamarioman? Because otherwise, I don't think you mean "op".

laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
17th Nov, 2021 02:44:48 PM

This is one of those cases where "summoning" the troper in question isn't recommended. Given the name and single issue wonk, it's highly unlikely they have any intention of editing outside the wonk, and a very high chance of public meltdown.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
17th Nov, 2021 02:48:28 PM

Yeah, Michael, sometimes summoning as a first resort isn't the best plan.

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Bubblepig (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
17th Nov, 2021 02:48:51 PM

^^^I mean Wicked Browser Jr.

^^I'm not summoning them I was about to sent them notification for doing something wrong.

Edited by Bubblepig โ€œWhat is that? It's The Unknown!โ€
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
17th Nov, 2021 03:11:44 PM

^ Nobody's saying you were going to summon them; they were talking about me, since I summoned them.

mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
17th Nov, 2021 04:08:30 PM

It's not just whitewashing, it looks entirely like an Alternate Character Interpretation. Bowser Jr.'s morality can vary from game to game just as much as Bowser's but I don't think he's usually depicted as an innocent indoctrinated child, even in Bowser's Fury.

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MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
17th Nov, 2021 04:11:15 PM

Um... it's strange. Michael had reverted the edits of the offender, and then Berrenta made a revert command. Wouldn't this have made the two editors' actions cancel out and inadvertedly restore the offender's edits?

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
17th Nov, 2021 04:13:01 PM

I'm pretty sure that Star told Berrenta which edit to go back to, so it wouldn't cancel anything out.

antenna_ears Since: Apr, 2020
17th Nov, 2021 04:13:48 PM

^ and ^^

The reversion has already happened and the page has been restored to the pre-whitewashed version.

Edited by antenna_ears
MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
17th Nov, 2021 04:15:10 PM

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying!

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WickedBowserJr Since: May, 2021
19th Dec, 2021 10:55:06 AM

What do you mean by "agenda-based behavior"? I only added objective information that I can give a source or explanation for regarding anything, as well as removed misleading information that was taken out of context. If anyone has any questions, let me know. I assure you all edits made were for a valid reason, so *please* do not revert it for no reason, ask me why. Thank you.

Edited by WickedBowserJr
megagutsman (Seven Years' War)
19th Dec, 2021 11:15:52 AM

Okay, first and foremost: Where do you get the idea that Bowser "brainwashed" Bowser Jr. and that everything evil Bowser Jr. has done comes from a place of misunderstanding instead of being genuinely evil?.

Cutegirl920fire (Rule of Three)
19th Dec, 2021 11:16:27 AM

^ First up, why didn't you come to this ATT report when it was on the first page? Secondly, you were whitewashing Bowser Jr by removing any negative/villain tropes about him even tho he's objectively a villain. If you wanna have more context, I guess you can read the other replies in this report.

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WickedBowserJr Since: May, 2021
19th Dec, 2021 11:57:34 AM

In reply to megagutsman: He objectively plays the role of a villain but is always implied to not want to do what he is doing, his said motivation has always been said to make his father proud of him or do what he believes his father expects of him. Don't put brainwash in air quotes, because that was exactly what he was since Super Mario Sunshine where he does everything because his dad convinced him Mario is a bad man. He eventually learns Peach is not actually his mother, but remains convinced Mario is a "bully who never fights fair". Even in later games while interacting with Mario, he hints at not truly hating him and realizing not everything his father taught him about Mario was necessarily true. He is just a child doing what he is lead to believe is right, and it is outright stated that Bowser Jr always said he wanted to be a hero instead. Because of the way his father is raising him, he is becoming more of an anti-hero, even having said "good and evil and simplistic outdated terms" and that "everything is relative". With each passing game, he is continuing to warm up to Mario more. In Bowser's Fury, he wanted to potentially make amends with Mario after saving him, but didn't to save face in front of his father who wouldn't approve.

In reply to cutegirl920fire: My apologies, I just logged on today after a while. The last few weeks I had been very upset due to a loss in my family and did not have the energy to do anything other than mourn. I'm still a little shaky honestly, but anyway... I'm not sure what you mean by "whitewashing", the things I removed were specifically misleading, and usually taken out of context as if the person who wrote them did not see the rest of the games they are talking about or was just making assumptions.

As such, anyone, please just ask me about each thing rather than hastily reverting the edits I worked so hard on to provide more information and correct existing ones. Again, sorry for any confusion. I can be most easily reached on my Discord, Wicked Bowser Jr#8661 (no spaces even though it seems to auto-format spaces in this reply) if that helps.

Edited by WickedBowserJr
iamconstantine Since: Aug, 2014
19th Dec, 2021 12:07:16 PM

Wicked, when a mod reverts your edits, you can't just undo it and re-add everything you originally put. You are now edit-warring.

laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
19th Dec, 2021 12:11:03 PM

Wicked, you need to get consensus before re-adding deleted material. That means people need to agree with you, not just throwing a Wall of Text at us and then doing whatever you want.

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iamconstantine Since: Aug, 2014
19th Dec, 2021 12:17:38 PM

Also, there isn't any reason to use an entirely different website/app to contact you when the matter can and should be discussed here. As of right now, since the consensus is that your edits are not valid, it's on you to plead your case, rather than telling us to seek you out.

That said, it still doesn't change the fact that you're edit-warring.

Edited by iamconstantine
jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
19th Dec, 2021 12:20:57 PM

This doesn't change the fact that you're also employing heavy Alternate Character Interpretation. Bowser Jr. is a just a lighthearted take on a Royal Brat. It's Mario, so he's not Joffrey level bad, but he's still helping his dad conquer the galaxy and/or mushroom kingdom and attacks Mario with giant mechs. That's not what good guys do.

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MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
19th Dec, 2021 12:27:13 PM

And now the troper has majorly edited Characters.Super Mario Bros Bowser Jr, and on top of that they're asking us to talk to THEM if there are any disagreements. The last edit before this was a mod revert. I'm afraid this isn't kosher at all.

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
19th Dec, 2021 12:32:37 PM

I just made a separate report for the edit-warring.

Dude is hardcore wonking, I don't think a discussion will bring them around.

I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
19th Dec, 2021 12:34:08 PM

With how old this is and how long it is, I think we're going to need a new report.

Edit: got ninja'd, ^

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MacronNotes (Captain)
19th Dec, 2021 12:38:32 PM

Suspended Wicked Bowser Jr for edit warring + undoing a mod revert. I reverted their edits on the Super Mario Bros.: Bowser Jr. page.

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