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Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#76: Aug 19th 2010 at 8:52:32 PM

Rams were also traditional animal sacrifices.

i. hear. a. sound.
snailbait bitchy queen from psych ward Since: Jul, 2010
bitchy queen
#77: Aug 19th 2010 at 9:09:17 PM

What about that girl with glasses though? She's represented with a masculine sign, while Catherine is represented with the feminine sign of Venus I believe.

So like the previous tropers were saying, I don't think the rams represent Catherine. Maybe it's the girl with glasses? I know she's not a man (as far as we can tell) but she is represened by a sign associated with males.

"Without a fairy, you're not even a real man!" ~ Mido from Ocarina of Time
JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#78: Aug 19th 2010 at 9:10:07 PM

The ram(it's actually goats, but close enough) relating to Lucifer is actually a hilarious(to me) case of flanderization.

Baphomet is a completely separate entity.

Umbran Climax
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#79: Aug 19th 2010 at 11:17:39 PM

Anyone else find that screenshot with the pizza to be Nausea Fuel? Something about it just looked wrong.

edited 19th Aug '10 11:18:06 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#80: Aug 19th 2010 at 11:24:23 PM

Yet nobody got mad a Chie's obsession with steak.

Umbran Climax
Indigo_Dingo Since: Dec, 1969
#81: Aug 19th 2010 at 11:30:41 PM

Mainly because there wasn't a photo of her in a bikini with blood around her mouth.

Crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#82: Aug 19th 2010 at 11:43:59 PM

Regarding glasses girl, Vincent shows up in P 3 P,and if you talk to him he mentions feeling guilty about cheating on his girlfriend. So she's probably the girlfriend.

JackMackerel from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA Since: Jul, 2010
Shale Mighty pirate! from Int'l House of Mojo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Mighty pirate!
#84: Aug 20th 2010 at 5:13:22 AM

I am so conflicted about this. On the one hand, I hate Persona. On the other hand, I love Studio 4°C.

Barrylocke Reaching the Future, the hard way from Thracia Since: Aug, 2009
Reaching the Future, the hard way
#85: Aug 20th 2010 at 8:42:20 AM

"Anyone else find that screenshot with the pizza to be Nausea Fuel? Something about it just looked wrong."

For some people that shot might be Fetish Fuel though.

edited 20th Aug '10 8:43:23 AM by Barrylocke

Taking a break from FE1, for the FE8 draft instead
SullenFrog (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#86: Aug 20th 2010 at 8:44:19 AM

Some people, maybe. Given the overall tone of the trailer, though, I feel that Nausea Fuel was what the creators were going for.

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WUE Since: Dec, 1969
#87: Aug 20th 2010 at 8:45:19 AM

@feo : I certainly did. Blatant innuendo + food = instant Fetish Retardant for me.

TomJ.S. doop from The Glacier Since: Oct, 2009
doop
#88: Aug 20th 2010 at 8:47:20 AM

^^^ Dat mouth.

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Meophist from Toronto, Canada Since: May, 2010
#89: Aug 20th 2010 at 9:56:27 AM

I am so conflicted about this. On the one hand, I hate Persona. On the other hand, I love Studio 4°C.
I suppose you can say it's a similar thing to me. That said, everything else about the game kinda turns me off, so I doubt I'll be playing it.

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FoominBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#90: Aug 20th 2010 at 10:28:51 AM

...I'm not sure what to think, myself. I really like the Shin Megami Tensei and Persona series — actually, I think I've gotten most of Atlus' releases lately, and enjoyed all of them, and I'm chomping at the bit for Etrian Odyssey III... So I was excited to see that they're finally making a game for the PS 3 (and 360, too, it looks like).

But... this game seems so strange. And quite... adult? Maybe? I agree that it seems like Atlus' take on Silent Hill from the trailer, with a few Umineko No Naku Koro Ni vibes (probably because of the rams' eyes, brr), but how much can we trust that?

I guess I'll keep a wary eye out for news about this one for now, and see if it even gets to come out over here before deciding whether or not to get it.

i-kun Persona! from Dark Hour Since: May, 2010
Persona!
#91: Aug 20th 2010 at 12:48:35 PM

What if the girl with the glasses is Mt F transsexual? That would explain her association with male symbols. Furthermore, Catherine is representation of Vincent's feelings of betrayal and anger at 'her' upon finding out the truth, as well as his perception of her as a woman before finding out. However, he still loves her, and all of his feelings for her collide and form his nightmare dream world.

Or Catherine is a demon taking advantage of him. Or maybe Vincent has gender identity issues, and Catherine and glasses girl are a representation of this. Or glasses girl is the manipulative demon.

Whatever it ends up being, I'm sure it'll be a riveting commentary on gender roles/identities and the natures and mechanics of relationships.

Maybe.

Colonial1.1 Since: Apr, 2010
#92: Aug 20th 2010 at 1:05:46 PM

Well, at the very least, it makes for riveting speculation months before the bally game comes out.

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#93: Aug 20th 2010 at 1:06:32 PM

What's wrong with starting now, eh? It looks weird enough that there's going to be plenty of speculation anyway.

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Colonial1.1 Since: Apr, 2010
#94: Aug 20th 2010 at 1:08:34 PM

-Grins-

Does it seem as if I have a problem with it?

Speculate away. Tease our brains.

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#95: Aug 20th 2010 at 1:08:45 PM

Just means they made a damn good trailer. grin

i. hear. a. sound.
SullenFrog (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#96: Aug 20th 2010 at 1:14:02 PM

I-Kun's theory (the first one, in any case) seems fairly sound to me. also, the woman with the glasses can be seen from the nose down at 1:28 in a rather ominous pose; this furthers my own theory that she may be a Yandere.

On the other hand, it could simply be an indication that she knows Vincent slept with Catherine, and simply disapproves (-20).

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Colonial1.1 Since: Apr, 2010
#97: Aug 20th 2010 at 1:18:28 PM

COMMU BREAK!

edited 20th Aug '10 1:18:41 PM by Colonial1.1

snailbait bitchy queen from psych ward Since: Jul, 2010
bitchy queen
#98: Aug 20th 2010 at 3:25:19 PM

Okay, so I have very little knowledge in Japanese, but I think the girl with glasses at the end is saying something along the lines of "I absolutely won't forgive you." Or something.

Yandere material? Yes, indeed.

"Without a fairy, you're not even a real man!" ~ Mido from Ocarina of Time
SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#99: Aug 20th 2010 at 3:31:53 PM

@Shale: HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU HATE PERSONA?!

Er...sorry.

Anyways, this looks interesting, to say the least. I'll be keeping an eye on it.

edited 20th Aug '10 3:32:17 PM by SomeNewGuy

RaidouKuzunohaXL Since: Jul, 2010
#100: Aug 20th 2010 at 4:14:24 PM

The rams made me think of Baphomet, but they actually looks more like Fomor now that I think about it. Fomor are Celtic giants of evil, and the Celts would go into battle naked so...maybe this is Vincent going into battle against his own evil?


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