Nippon Ichi (Disgaea, Makai Kingdom, etc.)

Pretty sure SRPGs are considered separate from the JRPG genre. Unless you hate those too.

IIRC, trying to make an Asagi game led to the mass exodus to Compule Heart.

Speaking of Asagi (and pardon me if it was already asked before), but did they ever get to making that game where she's the protagonist? I remember that there was such a game in the works.

Oh shoot, really? Didn't consider that. And for the record, I don't hate JRPGs in the slightest. I just haven't got the time or the money for it. Plus, I recall reading that a lot of Nippon Ichi's RPG games require a lot of grinding, and that kinda leaves me nervous, really.

(O_O)! Oh yeah, I remember reading about that...

Er, what if they start from scratch and came up with an Asagi action RPG a la NieR: Automata (including the joining of forces with PlatinumGames but minus all the cynical and dark stuff in that game)?

...Or would that just be a slap in the face to everyone wanting an Asagi game?

So, start with a retelling of Disgaea 1 and from there, do a mix of game adaptation and original stories starring secondary characters? That sounds like a pretty solid strategy.

Ha, Captain Gordon with Jennifer and Thursday? I'd do one on Nisa, but yeah I could see your idea as totally doable.

That approach does make sense. Because really, when people think Disgaea, they usually think of Laharl, Etna, and Flonne, right? How often do they think of, say, Mao and Co. or Valvatorez and his friends?

Well, how it goes is that she was meant to have a game called Makai Wars, and last I checked, they would do an announcement back in 2013 for Asagi's 10th anniversary, but nothing really came, did it?

Meanwhile, the second Prinny game had a mode where you play as a Prinny version of Asagi. One could make the argument that that counts as a game starring Asagi.

edited 14th Feb '17 10:20:52 AM by TargetmasterJoe

They announced it, but part of the info that came out about the mass exodus was due to internal disagreement during development of it. Then we never heard of it again.

Um, guys? Have you perchance already talked about this teaser involving a "7" and an "E"?

How crazy would it be that this tease for a supposed new game turned out to be for the one true Asagi game?

EDIT: False alarm. Disregard. Apparently that tease is for something called Exile Election. Poo.

edited 14th Feb '17 10:44:34 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Yeah, NIS is the latest in a string of companies who threw their hat into the Danganronpa-clone ring.

Speaking of which, what PS 3-or-later non-Disgaea games do the frequenters of this thread like from NIS? Aside from The Guided Fate Paradox, I think I hate just about everything I tried.

edited 14th Feb '17 10:54:25 AM by burnpsy

I really like the Guided Fate Paradox, Yomawari Night Alone is pretty interesting, uh, I thought Witch and the Hundred Knight was kind of fun.

Awakened Fate whatever it was was a huge letdown after Guided Fate Paradox though.

The casts of 3 and 4 are being warmed up to over the years, it's the cast of 2 nobody particularly likes.

I think it's more of a case of "the most memorable of the cast of 2 were far and away Adell, Rozalin, and Axel."

Yukimaru seems to be having a minor comeback with their Japan-only mobile game collaborations, though.

I think Yukimaru was kind of hurt with popularity in the rest of the world because of the "Zam" thing. It's awkward and it sounds completely unnatural in English. "Dood" works, because there are people who really do end practically every sentence with "dude". But ending every sentence with a random sound doesn't fly in English.

I wonder how it would've gone over if they tried an "ith" or "eth."

Dood is cute. Zam is just weird. She's not a particularly interesting character either way though.

Dood is probably one of the few Verbal Tics that actually works in english, let alone kept for a dub and loved.

Preach it, dood!

Dood! I hope Prinny Can I Really be the Hero, Dood!? and its sequel gets a port for the Switch. Plus Soul Nomad. I will hope for Soul Nomad forever and a day.

Holy cow, I was totally thinking about that last night, dood!

If they do, I hope they have both the original Nintendo Hard mode for the guys who've played the PSP originals and a new mode that dials back the hardness significantly for the folks who have zero idea about what Disgaea's all about, dood!

Summary of last night's NISA press event.

It's going to be a trip seeing Ys 8 released by Nisa instead of Ex-Seed. Hopefully the translation quality will be up to par.

That Ys title looks rather epic. I was going to say it looks a lot like Xenoblade with the anime aspect turned Up To Eleven, but apparently, Ys predates Xenoblade by a wide margin.

Anyway, something I wanted to ask: you guys know how in most, if not all, of Asagi's appearances, she has a different personality and voice?

Which of those personalities and voices are your favorites?

The Ys games are just a year younger than Legend of Zelda, actually. And tend to be more popular than Zelda in Japan.

The later games have been parodying their own conventions and lampshading tropes, so as long as they don't do much more than tap on the fourth wall instead of breaking it, NIS should do fine. Or at least I hope so.

At the very least, the stuff that people complain about regarding NISA isn't really relevant here. They're not going to censor it, because the stuff they've censored...you can see why. Like, cutting the bathhouse stuff out of Mugen Souls. The main character looks about five years old. Yeah, it's a super-deformed kind of artstyle, but the ESRB aren't going to care. And Criminal Girls...I honestly kind of like the first one (never played the second), but it's genuinely kind of weird that they were released in English at all.

The other thing is that NISA knows exactly how the Ys games are supposed to sound when translated, and Falcom apparently isn't all that hands-off with translations. Yeah, they're perfectly fine with new jokes and some name differences and stuff, but they will absolutely veto anyone who goes too far with changes. And NISA has a ton of games they've released where they didn't go crazy with fourth-wall stuff. It's just that their own in-house games and the Idea Factory stuff before the break up tended in that direction.

But yeah, I do think it's a little weird that NISA has this game, but Xseed has a really full plate right now, apparently.

edited 19th Feb '17 12:41:08 PM by Zendervai

There's only one thing NISA has a poor track record on that we need to worry about: introducing random crash bugs.

And no, they didn't get it because XSEED has a full plate. One of the localizers was crying over losing this on Twitter. It was strictly a business move on Falcom's end.

edited 19th Feb '17 12:52:41 PM by burnpsy

"Anyway, something I wanted to ask: you guys know how in most, if not all, of Asagi's appearances, she has a different personality and voice?

Which of those personalities and voices are your favorites?"

My favorite voice for Asagi has to absolutely be Laura Bailey from Disgaea Infinite.

Unlike Wendee Lee, who NISA keeps on tapping for some godforsaken reason, she NAILED it for me.

As for personality, I'm going to go with Prinny 2 or Disgaea 5.

Unlike Wendee Lee, who NISA keeps on tapping for some godforsaken reason

Hang on, so whenever Asagi appears with a particularly over the top British accent, that's Wendee Lee? ...Because I kinda like that voice (it's so over the top, it's hilarious IMO) as well as Laura Bailey.

As for personality, I'm a bit more partial of the jumpy/excitable personality seen in Disgaea D2 and Prinny 1, while having some respect towards the more grounded personality seen in Disgaea 5.

That said, while I'm brainstorming a hypothetical Asagi and Nisa adventure, I have been toying with the concepts of how there's apparently multiple Asagis with varying personalities and how the grounded Asagi seen in Disgaea 5 may very well be the real Asagi...

The concept itself isn't awful, but she portrays Asagi with a voice that I feel is 20-30 years older than 17-early 20s, which is clearly meant to be the character's age range.

A White-Dwarf Starlet if you will.

edited 19th Feb '17 5:45:17 PM by Grounder