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ImposterMetaKnight Grand Practitioner of Fairy Logic from Studying crop circles Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Grand Practitioner of Fairy Logic
#121726: Nov 27th 2014 at 3:35:46 PM

On a completely different note.

Yukari is the mastermind! I figured it out just now.

XionGaTaosenai Some kind of a New Leaf Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Some kind of a New Leaf
#121727: Nov 27th 2014 at 3:58:39 PM

Guys, I already called the Stage 2 boss spot. Get your own level.

Overruled, no nominating yourself for spots. Also, if nominating yourself for a spot "filled" that spot, the roster would just be a list of who posted first.

Yukari is the mastermind! I figured it out just now.

Of what? Sleeping?

I make video games! Or plan to, anyway.
XionGaTaosenai Some kind of a New Leaf Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Some kind of a New Leaf
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121730: Nov 27th 2014 at 5:34:57 PM

That reminds me of how sad I am that I can't wear a leaf hairclip nearly as stylishly as Mamizou.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121731: Nov 28th 2014 at 4:07:06 AM

It seems like Characters.Touhou Windows One is getting to the point where it needs to be split. Is there a way to do this without renaming the other game pages?

BeholdTheTheremin Since: Oct, 2010
Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#121733: Nov 28th 2014 at 8:13:02 AM

I did a quick character count and the breakdown is about

  • EoSD: 63820
  • PCB: 65171
  • IaMP: 5817
  • IN: 55125
  • PoFV: 17086

edited 28th Nov '14 8:14:03 AM by Prime32

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#121734: Nov 28th 2014 at 8:21:05 AM

Wait, how'd that happen?

Seriously! I coulda sworn it was the same size as or shorter than Windows Two.

Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#121735: Nov 28th 2014 at 8:35:25 AM

Anyway, my vote is to create Characters/TouhouKoumakyouEmbodimentOfScarletDevil as a subpage of Characters/TouhouWindowsOne (with Characters/TouhouEmbodimentOfScarletDevil as a redirect). The intro can explain how EoSD introduced a lot of recurring characters and traditionally gets a lot of attention from the fanbase, but ZUN hadn't fully established the setting at the time and many aspects of it were later Retconned away.

The Touhou Windows One page would have a "see Touhou Koumakyou Embodiment Of Scarlet Devil" link where the EoSD sheets are right now, and Characters/Touhou would go

edited 28th Nov '14 12:01:20 PM by Prime32

joergenjetsam from The city of constant rain Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#121736: Nov 28th 2014 at 10:39:28 AM

[up] Mhm. I don't mind that.

Conception is sin Birth is pain Life is toil Death is inevitable
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#121737: Nov 28th 2014 at 3:53:00 PM

Thing I just realized: I own a violin, a trumpet and a keyboard.

Song of the Sirens
PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm
#121738: Nov 28th 2014 at 4:13:18 PM

-dances- ^_^

GIVE ME YOUR FACE
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121739: Nov 28th 2014 at 4:13:51 PM

Anyway, my vote is to create Touhou Koumakyou Embodiment Of Scarlet Devil as a subpage of Touhou Windows One (with Touhou Embodiment Of Scarlet Devil as a redirect).

I suppose that'd work, though it feels kind of half-assed. And the PCB section is actually larger

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#121740: Nov 28th 2014 at 4:23:00 PM

Maybe put both Eo SD and PCB into the same section then?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#121741: Nov 28th 2014 at 4:47:11 PM

you own instruments?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#121743: Nov 28th 2014 at 5:13:52 PM

No, not really.

Are you any good?

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#121744: Nov 28th 2014 at 5:17:30 PM

I think the real question is 'Are you not un-good?', to which the answer would be no.

Song of the Sirens
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#121745: Nov 28th 2014 at 5:24:14 PM

O-okay

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#121746: Nov 28th 2014 at 6:07:52 PM

Yeah the PCB section is slightly longer, but it makes less sense to take out something from the middle, particularly since EoSD's Early-Installment Weirdness could be argued as a "mini-era". If things get too big again then we could create another subpage for PCB, but there doesn't seem any real reason to lump it and EoSD together.

edited 28th Nov '14 6:08:20 PM by Prime32

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121747: Nov 28th 2014 at 7:56:35 PM

I'd rather renumber everything.

Alternately we could give every game its own page? If they're going to keep growing anyway, we'd have to do so in the long run.

edited 28th Nov '14 7:57:01 PM by Clarste

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121748: Nov 28th 2014 at 8:12:16 PM

The suggestion on the discussion page was to give all the main windows games their own page, and lump the side games together

BeholdTheTheremin Since: Oct, 2010
#121749: Nov 28th 2014 at 11:18:43 PM

[up]That makes more sense to me, to be honest. Though I'd think we'd keep the main games in the current pages, then put the side games in their own page.

edited 28th Nov '14 11:19:41 PM by BeholdTheTheremin

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#121750: Nov 29th 2014 at 12:29:50 AM

Oh dear, this is a complicated issue sad Hmmm... well, I'm not sure if the splitting is necessary...? But! I'll certainly defer to your judgements on that smile, you're way more experienced in troping and page management and stuff. In that case, the "every game gets its own page" thing actually sounds best to me! [tup]

I did get my start in the Touhou Fandom through this very Character Page, so I am very attached to it. Also, my priority with it is always "how useful and easy-to-understand is it to a newcomer?", since that's the exact situation I was in.

Speaking of that! surprised Maybe now that we're already reworking the Char Page a bit, could we give consideration to an idea I have stated in here several times before already? smile Namely, that of giving Reimu and Marisa also their own "The two Main Characters" page on the Main Characters Index? surprised I still think this is a good idea.

If someone doesn't know anything about Touhou and checking the Char Page first (like I did), he'd expect the first couple listed characters to be the most important ones, right? If not outright having a "Main Characters" extra page. That's how it is for Dragon Ball or Sailor Moon for example. smile Here, with Touhou, it's super unclear. A newcomer might go "OK, this PC 98 thing is the first item, so probably where I should start, right?",... which leads him first into Reimu, which is good. But then follows... Shingyoku ^^ Which is great if you're SDM ^^, not so much if you're new.

Marisa, who undoubtedly is the second most important character of this huge franchise (and also, I would add, has a LOT of Wolverine Publicity, so a new person might have already seen her somewhere else before, and be specifically interested in her!)... but here, she's buried in the middle of PC 98, between Meira and Evil Eye Sigma.

So maybe we could also consider doing that smile Thank you.


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