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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#50501: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:05:09 PM

About the stuff with One Piece. The World Nobles are really being made into over the top ass holes aren't they? I haven't been a strong follower of One Piece, but I remember that scene that was mentioned-the one where that Noble grabbed a random woman off the streets and declare her his new wife while leaving the woman's husband behind for dead. Seriously... what the hell?
You forgot that in the very same scene, he follows up the wife-taking with a command to his MIB guy to throw out two or three of his already-existing wives into the streets because he got bored with them. And the MIB guy is nonplussed — it's clearly just Tuesday for him. Geh.

@No Limit: Do I need to invoke Godwin's Law, Mr. Wide-Eyed Idealist?

[up] Deterrence should also taken into consideration as well. Making conviction of first-degree murder an automatic death sentence and strictly enforcing it (which necessiates a competent law enforcement to capture those arrogant enough to think they can get away with it) nicely scares off a good deal of potential first-degree murderers through fear of punishment alone.

edited 15th Oct '12 12:08:42 PM by MarqFJA

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NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#50502: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:06:22 PM

Hitler is harmless by himself. Besides, by the end of the war, Germany was shattered as a country and in no power to fight for his freedom.

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WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#50503: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:08:10 PM

IIRC correctly one of the problems during the French War was that the European Settlers and Natives had different ideas about what to do with prisoners. Settlers captured enemy combatants or let them flee (and IIRC if captured would send them home under the promise they wouldn't fight anymore, I'll double check that) in contrast Natives just out right slaughter the enemy down to the last man to be sure they wouldn't fight anymore.

The many cultural/philosophy/history classes I've taken have made me see the world is by no means black and white.

I want there to be "a better way" too, but what is a "better way"?

edited 15th Oct '12 12:12:02 PM by WorldTurtle

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#50504: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:10:09 PM

I'm not having this discussion, because you're forcing me into the "white" argument when I've basically said that it's all gray.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#50505: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:11:33 PM

[up][up][up] You're forgetting that by that time, millions of people worldwide wanted him dead for indirectly causing the death of either a relative or a close friend. Keep that in mind: He had the blood of 60 million people on his hands.

/end derail

edited 15th Oct '12 12:12:31 PM by MarqFJA

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NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#50506: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:12:21 PM

See previous post.

I need to get back to work on my webcomic scripting. Realized my world isn't as fine-tuned as I'd like...

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#50507: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:13:24 PM

Generally, people who go to jail tend to come out worse than they went in. So, yeah.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Anemoi Snow Queen and Proctologist from Arendelle Proctology Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
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#50508: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:14:28 PM

[[quotebloc]] You've also got Asakura/Kaede claimed from way the hell ago, apparently [[/quoteblock]]

Hey, whoever said 'double dipping' wasn't allowed?

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WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#50509: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:14:55 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Sorry. Didn't mean to make you feel you were being backed into a corner.

Also I wasn't discussing the death penalty for criminals-I know that topic can cause a lot of debate so I was trying to avoid that-but war and revolution and what typically happens to the leaders of the losing side.

edited 15th Oct '12 12:16:31 PM by WorldTurtle

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#50510: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:15:20 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] There's no such thing as only Gray-and-Grey Morality, IMO. It's Black-Grey-White continuum where there things that are clearly white or black, and a lot more things that are countless shades of grey. Hitler's (and anyone else of his mold's) crimes are solid Black. End of story.

I dunno about you, but I doubt that you'd keep your mindset if you end up having a relative or friend murdered in cold blood.

edited 15th Oct '12 12:16:42 PM by MarqFJA

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#50511: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:17:10 PM

[up][up][up]Nobody. I just figured that as long as you were writing a harem snippet, you might be able to do that other one so it could finally be checked off.

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#50512: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:19:01 PM

[up][up] And I damn well better never have to.

Can we not have this chat anymore? This is getting way too personal for me.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#50513: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:21:50 PM

Gladly. Even if I really do get ticked off by anti-death penalty stuff that goes as far to take the side of first-murder convicts; makes me feel like they're hypocrites when they defend the lives of people who remorselessly and post-fact-unregretfully took lives with no good reason, I shouldn't have taken it too personally here. Sorry.

edited 15th Oct '12 12:22:22 PM by MarqFJA

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#50514: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:23:40 PM

I blame you, Eva, for dragging me into this. If you didn't mention me, I could have happily gone about my day working on my webcomic. tongue

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Anemoi Snow Queen and Proctologist from Arendelle Proctology Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
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#50515: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:23:56 PM

I'll start writing them tonight after my midterm

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50516: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:24:22 PM

There is no black and there is no white. There's only blue and orange.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#50517: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:24:55 PM

Oi, I keep telling you guys to quite picking on my kohai! tongue

[up] I don't see a difference between "black vs. white" and "blue vs. orange"; they're both pairs of chromatic opposites. evil grin

edited 15th Oct '12 12:26:17 PM by MarqFJA

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50519: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:27:25 PM

Magenta is evil and is trying to take over the world. We must join together to defeat Magenta.

[up][up]Blue and Orange are the colors of Goku's uniform.

edited 15th Oct '12 12:28:37 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#50520: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:31:32 PM

On the Rape Topic: There is one fic I've read that actually seem to handle the issue somewhat decently. It was also long and multi-chaptered going up to 50 or so chapters IIRC giving all the characters focus to pace things out.

Of course considering nearly every other Rape Fic I've read was basically "Character A is raped by Character B, and Character C comes in to comfort Character A and the two quickly get together and may or may not have sex later" or "Character A Rapes Character B and B falls in love with A' any other take on the situation would look better.

edited 15th Oct '12 12:34:15 PM by WorldTurtle

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50521: Oct 15th 2012 at 12:39:56 PM

Rape in fanfiction is all too common and improperly used.

For some reason, whenever connotations of rape arise, women suddenly become strangely docile and submissive, even if they should, in all seriousness, be capable of kicking all amounts of ass.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Anemoi Snow Queen and Proctologist from Arendelle Proctology Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
Snow Queen and Proctologist
#50522: Oct 15th 2012 at 1:04:09 PM

I find Rape as Drama to be incredibly overused and not-the-least interesting

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T-bone61 [Today's Joestar] from NY Breezy Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#50523: Oct 15th 2012 at 1:47:36 PM

OM, I have a question for you: Were you the one who mentioned wanting to do a Garfield Royal Rescue parody? I'm asking because I was struck by inspiration today, and typed up pretty much all of one of my own. Do you mind if I post it?

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#50524: Oct 15th 2012 at 2:42:52 PM

I blame you, Eva, for dragging me into this. If you didn't mention me, I could have happily gone about my day working on my webcomic.

And now I think we're even.

t-bone: Though I can not presume to speak on his behalf, I don't think he would.

NoLimit Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#50525: Oct 15th 2012 at 3:43:20 PM

"Oh, poor me. PITY ME! I NEED SYMPATHY AND ATTENTION!"

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