The Chatterbox, Random Music Discussion

But I don't know what I want to say...I have a aesthetic in mind, though.

Is it this?

I'm so sorry.

edited 15th Feb '15 11:36:34 AM by PhysicalStamina

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

It doesn't have to be something you can put into words.

An idea — visual, aural, verbal, anything — can be your message.

Oh...well, that's comforting.

I was disheartened, because I had a certain aesthetic in mind that it turns out one woman did way way better than I ever could without me knowing about it.

@Glenn on the last page:

I don't think music necessarily needs to have a message, or just because a track is made because the producer wanted something to do makes it bad. I mean, most of my music doesn't have any sort of message in it or anything I want to say. I just made it because I enjoy making music. If you can put your heart and soul into making a track that sounds good to you (and hopefully to others), then even if you don't have anything you want to express through it, it still makes it meaningful.

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

So I just "discovered" PC Music from Hudson Mohawke's Boiler Room set were QT "showed up" or something (and I Google searched it on TV Tropes and apparently you guys have talked about it) and............. I don't get it

Like I'm fascinated by the fact it may or may not be one like one or two dudes (A.G. Cook and Sohpie) under a billion pseudonyms or something like that, and that they're pissing off the Resident Advisor crowd (which is good in my book since Resident Advisor is the most elitist bullshit ever) but tbh the music..... kinda sucks. It's all just sounds like a badly produced version of Rustie's first album with some Kyary Pamyu Pamyu "ironic kawaii" type shit (admittedly another artist I don't 'get') and some vaporwave for good measure (and I honestly vaporwave is a joke to me.)

See, to me I think artists who try hard to put up this "mysterious persona" just tend to be way overhyped and are usually kinda bullshit. (When I say "mysterious persona" I'm not talking about Daft Punk and deadmau5, who don't really engage in this type of "ooohhh 2spooky mystery" shit and only use their "image" because it's gets them popular. No, I'm talking about the UZ or Phuture Doom type shit where they keep themselves hidden and do everything as a "spooky" ARG to try and get hype, though I'll admit I thought Phuture Doom's album was actually kinda interesting tbh. Hell, I like Death Grips and they always do this "spooky" shit, though I'm ok with them doing it so I dunno what that says about me tbh.)

I'll take vaporwave over PC Music any day.

Unless you count Kero Kero Bonito. They're okay.

edited 19th Feb '15 6:09:32 PM by PhysicalStamina

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

OK, I'm the only person on this bloody forum that likes PC Music, so I can't really argue in its favor. You either like it, or you don't.

...like vaporwave. Huh.

Honestly I just think PC Music (specifically Hey QT as it's the only one I can remember) just sounds like a bad parody of cutesy bubblegum eurobeat or whatever like Aqua.

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

"kinda sucks" is the understatement of the century. Also I don't think there's anything to "get", honestly, it's not like there's any kind of deep meaning either in the lyrics or the music, it's pretty much all there.

But apparently you can listen to Rustie which is already more than I can stomach (I'm torn between Glass Swords and 93 Million Miles for worst album ever released on Warp) so, go figure.

At least there is stuff in vaporwave that is listenable, and there are honest-to-god good producers that did end up coming out of that genre (Vektroid anyone ?).

edited 19th Feb '15 6:43:51 PM by Akalabth

You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.

Mmmgh...I'm in the vast, vast minority here. Maybe I'm wrong...?

You're not wrong for liking it. If you like it, you like it, and to hell with what others may think about it.

Don't let the dissonance hamper your enjoyment of it.

I don't know...sometimes, I feel like I only like things because I was told to like it...

x3 Believe me, I listen to dubstep; I feel that way all the time.

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

Yet here you are listening to an artist that everyone else on this subforum hates.

Everyone on this subforum. Not the internet as a whole.

I'm more concerned about my terrible reading habits influencing this.

Hey if you like it, you gotta own that shit dude. Don't let other people blindly tell you not to like things because they think they suck. Also, you're probably like one of about four people who have even heard of PC Music on this forum. Shit, I think Skrillex is a pretty dope ass producer even though self-righteous /mu/tants tell me my opinions are shit because I'm not circlejerking over The Money Store for the billionth time (no offense to The Money Store, I think it's pretty good)

But back to the topic of opinions and shit, like..... Akalabth thinks Glass Swords is terrible, but I think it's pretty dope, so I'm just gonna let him have his opinion and I'll just have mine and I won't bitch out about it. See, you can think for yourself when it comes to opinions and shit.

Back to PC Music, to be totally honest I was probably a bit too harsh in my first point but my sentiments remain the same after listening to a shit load of PC Music's Sound Cloud. There's like two songs I actually kinda think are alright-ish, but most of it is either WAYYYY to overindulgent in the "ironic cute" style, or just too offbeat (like in Aphex Twin was a 14 year old girl from the 2001 or some shit.)

edited 19th Feb '15 10:26:03 PM by RoboZombie

I like "Hey QT" and some songs by Sophie, but that's where my exposure to the whole thing ends.

Also as explained before I have a kind of ... visceral reaction to the pc music stuff.

But yeah if you like it and you can stomach the sugar overdose, more power to you man.

And like Quag and Robo Zombie said, you like what you like. I love stuff that a lot people consider pretty terrible, mostly in the realm of really dated and cookie-cutter 80s pop. More generally, if I started to get affected each time someone told me that what I listen to is shit, I would probably already have thrown 90% of my cd/vinyl collection out the window.

Everyone is influenced by what they read too, but it's important to read it with a grain of salt. I love to read Fact Magazine and Pitchfork, because they cover a lot of the stuff that I like and follow and listen to, and even if I do agree most of the time with them, there's a lot of stuff we don't agree on, and that's ok. For example, Fact are head over heels for, among other things, pc music, Rustie and Mssingno (seriously they named that shit track of the god damn year for chrissakes) which I all find pretty god damn unbearable, but no one can agree on everything.

edited 20th Feb '15 3:03:05 AM by Akalabth

You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.

I suppose.

I actually got introduced to PC Music through the least-cute stuff (Felicita).

What's "PC Music"?

It's a record label/art collective that specializes in making very twee-sounding, sugary dance tunes with an undercurrent of the surreal and the uncanny. Personally, I love it, but I can definitely see why others don't. (Seriously, the reactions here may as well be talking about Kid A compared to how other people talk about PC Music).

I don't listen to Radiohead. I assume Kid A is widely acclaimed?

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

Kid A is widely acclaimed nowadays, though it had generated a Broken Base when it came out.

edited 20th Feb '15 1:03:50 PM by Quag15

I can't listen to Radiohead, but for once I have a kind of sensible and easy to explain reason as to why : Thom Yorke's voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me.

You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.