The Chatterbox, Random Music Discussion

I think my grandmother owns that album. Since I can't find it on Spotify, it's probably a more frugal option to get it from her. Not only it includes Florence Welch, but also Sia.

Haha, "Never So Big" was the song that got me interested in Sia in the first place.

Here Lies Love has a bunch of great songs, but unfortunately it also has quite a bit of filler. Yet another example for the "double album that should have been a single album" pile. Of course, it was also a Rock Opera, and if had been edited down to just my favorite tracks, the plot wouldn't have made any sense at all. Kind of a no-win situation there.

Wait, so even the filler is important?

They're important to the plot, but musically they're kind of boring. So not really filler by the traditional definition, I guess.

Huh. I never realised Florence was included on the album despite listening to her first album almost obsessively when Here Lies Love came out. It's also funny to see St. Vincent collaborating here with Byrne, given their later work together.

So this is this "Ghost" music video that the internet is all aflutter about.

But why?

EDIT: Oh, of course. MLP fandom.

edited 3rd Nov '14 5:10:52 PM by Xeroop

Yeah, it makes sense that a video that has nothing to do with MLP gets popular because of the MLP fandom. Flawless logic, that is.

The video was animated by a guy who has gathered millions of views and subscriptions solely on his MLP fan animations. So I would say there's a tiny, even tangential relation to the fandom. It might be hard to notice, but if you look at the youtube page of the uploader, you might just catch it. Might.

edited 3rd Nov '14 5:31:12 PM by Xeroop

Hmm. Well, I believe I've seen all I need to see.

Hey, what song's riff is stolen for this song? I know I've heard it before, and I'm almost certain it's the Beatles, but I can't quite remember the name and it's making me feel stupid.

"Ticket To Ride"?

That's what I thought at first. I checked again and I just might not be listening well enough, but the guitar riff only sounds similar, whereas I feel like I've heard the exact riff before.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure I was thinking of Day Tripper.

edited 7th Nov '14 6:49:04 PM by ColonelCathcart

Sounds like "Day Tripper" to me too. Would not call it 'stolen' though, as that song was released before "Day Tripper".

edited 8th Nov '14 5:34:03 AM by Xeroop

Maybe it's a Bells of Rhymney type situation then? The Beatles heard the song, liked that part and used it?

EDIT: I don't hear the Day Tripper-esque riff in the single version from 1964, but I don't know when the album version (released 1966) was written. Stolen is probably too harsh a word though.

edited 8th Nov '14 10:21:46 AM by ColonelCathcart

Lil Wayne has a non-fatal seizure. Reaction is...less than pleasant◊

Okay, I don't even like Wayne, but... too much is too much.

On a lighter note, I recently realized I may have a favorite album of 2014 after all: Mandatory Fun.

^^ Twitter seems to be a particularly fruitful place to find people with obnoxious (or obnoxiously-expressed) opinions about things. (Like a certain other recent controversy about videogames did not already tell us that...)

And no, this is not a good thing.)

fix'd

Good point.

On another topic, what styles of popular music these days have more in the way of modulations? (as in, key changes)

edited 15th Nov '14 1:38:03 PM by GlennMagusHarvey

I think that's pretty much a standard thing these days, no matter what.

Offtopic, but does anyone know where I can discuss the starting of a new trope page for a musical genre? We have one for every genre but ragtime... Even marches.

Don't discuss it, just do it.

As long as there are enough tropes and enough description, it should pass okay.

I didn't have to talk with anybody to make my Theme Park World page.

Thank God. I can get it done.

A great wrong shall be redressed.

edited 15th Nov '14 2:05:59 PM by Aldo930

Well, it's typical in song form to have the verse and refrain both in the same key. Somewhat less common is for the two to have closely related keys, such as relative major/minor. More distant relations are even less common.

Just wondering what sorts of genres this is more common in.

Obviously, this is more common in genres that are more given to lyricism, such as pop/country/rock/metal as opposed to rap/electronica/techno.

But I'm just curious what genres in the first group this is more common to. I recently read someone commenting that it's rarely seen, and I was curious to dig deeper into that contention.

And yeah, one problem with our wiki is that we have much better coverage on stuff that's currently-popular.

It is technically irrelevant to, but nevertheless lends itself to, criticisms that TVT is just a bunch of pop-culture flakes with no appreciation for "real" art.