Characters In Hogwarts Houses

Going back to the Tiger And Bunny entry on Page 2, I don't think Lunatic is all that Slytherin. Seems more like a classic example of a Gryffindor gone bad... and the flame motif helps, too.

edited 6th Jun '11 5:19:20 PM by Iaculus

Nornagest: I hadn't thought past the big three but you had the same houses and largely same reasoning I did.

What about minor HP characters whose houses were never revealed?

I've been re-reading #4, and I think both Barty Crouches would have been in Slytherin, but the older Mr. Crouch would have been a more traditional "good" slytherin (cunning, ambitious, political, uses any means to achieve his ends), whereas the younger Mr. Crouch falls into the later, flanderized "in it for teh evulz" Slytherins.

I wonder, also, about Umbridge. I'd say she'd be slytherin too because she's very interested in her political career and has no problem turning nazi against all the muggleborns because it suits her politically to do so. But one doesn't often associate pink bows and kittens with slytherin :P

Also in my previous post about Stargate I'd suggested Teal'c might be a good slytherin because he rose high in the enemy army prior to his Heel–Face Turn, but I take it back upon further consideration. He's a gryffindor if ever there was one.

It mildly annoys that fanfic writers like putting Lockhart in Hufflepuff because he's a bumbling idiot, ignoring the fact that he had absolutely none of their traits. Guy's definitely a Slytherin.

I thought about, and I disagree with putting Hermione in Ravenclaw, though. Ever. She's intelligent, but she doesn't center around intelligence as much as she does about bravely doing the right thing - or, better put, she prides intelligence, but it always comes second to her bravery. Her running to the library is always because she's either determined to be the best, or because she's going out of her way to face some threat. She more a Gryffindor than a Ravenclaw, I think. She might even be better in Hufflepuff than Ravenclaw - she's possibly the most loyal person we've seen in the series other than Hagrid, and definitely one of the most honorable.

Hermione actually says in Book Five that the hat seriously considered putting her in Ravenclaw (not sure if those are exact words).

Close enough.

Anyway, when thinking about where I'd sort HP characters, I take particular interest in the Black brothers, Sirius and Regulus.

Regulus obviously would have wished to be in Slytherin as, much like Draco, he was very loyal to family tradition. And of course, much like Draco, this adherence to tradition faultered under his conscience. The similarities with Malfoy end there since Regulus had the backbone and intelligence to stand up for his beliefs and oppose his former hero.

Contrast the good, faithful Regulus with the rebel Sirius. It seems extremely likely Sirius would have siehed NOT to be in Slytherin. But look at the things that define Sirius' character. He was highly charismatic ("the height of cool" according to Lupin and there are other comments on his and James' popularity), he was all too happy to abuse his natural talent to hurt those weaker than himself and we can't forget how he tried to have someone eaten for shits and giggles.

Really, Sirius belongs in Slytherin. The only thing missing is ambition but that's only missing because the books tell us jack squat about what he did right after leaving Hogwarts.

It's just a shame the books are written from Harry's perspective and he never acknowledges what terrible people his father and godfather were.

edited 7th Jun '11 2:11:30 AM by Nikkolas

Actually, he does acknowledge it. In book five he is very upset to find out how his father treated Snape, to the point of going to considerable risk to contact Lupin and Sirius about it, even to the point of imagining his father forcing Lilly to marry him. The answer he gets is basically that his father was a jerk as a teenager but grew out of it, which might seem unlikely but isn't impossible to buy. I imagine having a family and being in a war with Voldemort might have forced James to grow up and take on real responsibility. Everybody except Snape seems to think he was a great guy, so unless they're all deluded or lying, you kind of have to accept it.

Revolutionary Girl Utena cast:

Utena – Gryffindor

Anthy – Slytherin

Akio – Slytherin

Touga – Slytherin

Saionji – a bitter, angry Hufflepuff

Miki – Ravenclaw

Juri – Gryffindor

Nanami – She's a hard one. My initial thought was Slytherin. However, she's not that cunning (she has a manipulative side, but of the backstabbing Libby kind), and not that ambitious. At first her ambitions are Touga's ambitions, because she worships him and her entire world revolves around him. Only later she develops and wishes to surpass her old self. So I'n still going with Slytherin, but not a typical one.

Mikage – A nasty Ravenclaw who uses his intelligence to manipulate people

Ruka – a very douche-y Gryffindor

Wakaba – Hufflepuff

Kozue – A wild Gryffindor – the way she jumped out of a window to save a baby bird shows bravery, and also recklessness that I connect with Gryffindor.

Shiori – Another hard one. She's not a Slytherin, because she's not cunning (petty and bitchy yes, but not cunning) or ambitious (her desire to be special has more to do with low self-esteem and jealousy). She's not particularly barve or smart, so not Gryffindor and Ravenclaw either. But I don't really see her as a Hufflepuff either. Yeah, I dunno about Shiori, she's hard.

Digimon kids:

Adventure/02:

Taichi: Biggest Gryffindor ever.

Yamato: He's a hard one… I'm tempted to put him is Slytherin as opposed to Taichi, but he would also make a very good Gryffindor.

Sora: Hufflepuff

Koshirou: Ravenclaw, duh.

Mimi: Gryffindor

Jou: I'd say Hufflepuff because he's very hardworking and responsible, but he also has a strong Gryffindor side.

Takeru: Gryffindor

Hikari: Hufflepuff

Daisuke: Would be a great Gryffindor or Hufflepuff. Eventually ends up in Gryffindor because he wants to be on Taichi's house.

Miyako: Ravenclaw with a Gryffindor streak

Iori: Hufflepuff

Ken: Hufflepuff who thinks he should be a Slytherin, but eventually embraces his Hufflepuff nature.

Tamers:

Takato: So very Hufflepuff

Jen: Ravenclaw

Ruki: Bad Slytherin —> Good Slytherin

Juri: Gryffindor

Hirokazu and Kenta: Gryffindor

Ryo: Gryffindor

edited 7th Jun '11 5:13:30 AM by Moondust

Her general gist was that the hat considered Ravenclaw but "decided on Gryffindor in the end," which evidently means she didn't even need to ask for it, the hat already saw her as one.

Sirius isn't a Slytherin. People need to stop saying he is just because they think he's a terrible person. He's not ambitious, and while he's crafty he's not entirely cunning - throughout the series he's been shown to be the kind of guy who believes in rushing into trouble, having little in the way of self-preservation - his blind courage, determination, and extreme impulsiveness are three of his most dominant traits throughout the series.

^^^^ I've always thought that James' turning point came when he realized Sirius had intentionally/unintentionally (did we ever get a straight answer on that? We have only Snape's word for it) set Snape up to get mauled. It's one thing to 'tease' a guy, but it's quite another to want him dead, and James probably wasn't murderer material. I kinda see him as turning over a new leaf after that, but there being too much bad blood between him and Snape for them to ever even tolerate each other.

edited 7th Jun '11 1:26:22 PM by FurikoMaru

The books say he straightened out when he started dating Lily.

Yeah, but it's easier for me to respect Lily if I think of her as seeing him become a better person before agreeing to date him.

I lost all respect for Lily when I found out her patronus was the distaff counterpart of James's. BE YOUR OWN PERSON, dammit. Snape gets a pass because of angst, but making Lily's patronus a doe seemed like a total cop out.

Okay, sorry, can re-rail the thread :P

Maybe when you fall in love your Patronus automatically sorta meshes with that of the one you're in love with - your souls are linked, so your Patronuses follow suit.

Aberforth's was a goat, after all.

On the other hand, Snape knew Lily's was a doe, which means there's a good chance it was a doe before they had their falling out, which was long before she hooked up with James.

edited 7th Jun '11 8:34:52 PM by KnownUnknown

Wasn't it stated somewhere that Tonks's Patronus changed? I seem to recall Snape making a snide remark about in HBP (When it was a wolf, rather that whatever previously).

Yes. Tonks' changed when she fell in love with Remus.

Also James only saved Snape out of self-interest.

"I would hate for you to run away with a false idea of your father, Potter," he said, a terrible grin twisting his face. "Have you been imagining some act of glorious heroism? Then let me correct you-your saintly father and his friends played a highly amusing joke on me that would have resulted in my death if your father hadn't got cold feet at the last moment. There was nothing brave about what he did. He was saving his own skin as much as mine. Had their joke succeeded, he would have been expelled from Hogwarts (Prisoner of Azkaban 285)."

edited 8th Jun '11 12:58:34 AM by Nikkolas

Yeah, 'cause Snape's perception of reality isn't skewed by years of shitty treatment and self-loathing at all.

Well I wasn't that serious. >> Much as I adore Snape I recognize his faults.

Even still, I don't see James saving Snape for Truth, Justice eand the British Way. Not wanting to get expelled could very well be part of it.

Didn't say that at all. I'm just sayin', James can't be a complete shit if a decent girl like Lily married him.

^^ He may have been a jerk, but it's very rare you get a jerk that wouldn't try to do the same thing in his situation, especially given the kind of jerk he was. He may have hated Snape, but his conscience which showed itself so often with people he liked probably hit him even when someone he hated was in trouble.

I'll do Prequel Star Wars and The Clone Wars:

The Prequels:

Anakin: he has strong Gryfindore and Slytherine traits, but more Gryfindore traits. His daring and courage are legendary- he even gets the nickname "the hero without fear". He does have ambition, but he's not very cunning, at least not in the long term. He can come up with clever tactics in the heat of battle, but he doesn't strike me as the kind to carefully plot an enemy's demise.

Obi-wan: Hufflepuff or Gryfindore.

Qui-Gon: Ravenclaw.

Padme: Hufflepuff.

Palpatine: it seems redundant and needless to even point out that he'd be a Slytherine. The man is practically the embodiment of all the worst qualities of Slytherine.

The Clone Wars:

Ashoka: Gryfindore.

Cad Bane: Slytherine. Not sure about ambition beyond making money, but very cunning.

That's pretty much how I was going to do it, though I'd put Obi-Wan in Ravenclaw.

I wonder where the Fetts (Jango and Boba) would go.

The Fetts have characterization?

edited 8th Jun '11 10:29:23 AM by Nornagest