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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3751: Jul 25th 2010 at 12:26:51 PM

^^^ Wait, Nekane being Negi's cousin was confirmed in-story? Which chapter was it?

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OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
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#3752: Jul 25th 2010 at 12:28:31 PM

@ Zeether: I already did a Yue one, indeed, although it was a very brief one. From when most of the pieces were much shorter than the latter pieces. For some reason, the librarians all ended up with very short segments, which to some degree I regret. Maybe I'd expand on them for the FF.Net revisions if I get to do them.

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#3753: Jul 25th 2010 at 12:35:18 PM

^^^ Wait, Nekane being Negi's cousin was confirmed in-story? Which chapter was it?

I have no idea which chapter specifically, but it was probably within the first thirty or so chapters when Negi explains who she is to Asuna. Or maybe when she meets up with Negi before he goes to the magical world, but I doubt that. It's not like she shows up much.

edited 25th Jul '10 12:35:51 PM by Arha

OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#3754: Jul 25th 2010 at 12:37:54 PM

Nekane being Negi's actual sister wouldn't fit in with the temporal schematics of Nagi and Arika's relationship anyway, would it? It even seems kinda doubtful she could be a paternal half-sister of Nagi. Although I guess she must be related to Negi by his father's side.

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Knight of Legend
#3755: Jul 25th 2010 at 1:23:23 PM

@Over Master: Crap, I didn't notice it among all the posts.

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OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
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#3756: Jul 25th 2010 at 1:24:12 PM

Eh, it was very short, so it was easy to miss. No problem.

Zeether Knight of Legend from Mahora (I wish) Since: Jan, 2001
Knight of Legend
#3757: Jul 25th 2010 at 1:34:00 PM

Also, Nekane is hot.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3758: Jul 25th 2010 at 1:38:39 PM

^^^^ I wonder why I never thought of that before.

^^^ It was one among over a dozen in the first of the "Thirty One Fifty Three Negi and Chisame Threesomes" posts, and it's composed of a single line. I wouldn't blame you if you missed it due to speed-reading through the post.

Random game: Which Negima characters can fill in any of the nine classes in Team Fortress 2 as faithfully as possible to both their original characterization and the TF 2 class's own?

edited 25th Jul '10 1:41:16 PM by MarqFJA

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#3759: Jul 25th 2010 at 2:42:13 PM

^ where be ep 2? evil grin

also one of the Q&As said that nekane wasnt his sister but doesnt explain exactly what she is.

Are Nekane and Negi actual, blood-related siblings? If that is true, then doesn’t Nekane have incredible magic power as well? They are not real siblings. Nekane’s magic isn’t too powerful, either.
man that's vague.

EDIT: note to self add Unsuspectingly Soused to negi's character page whenever it is done from getting checked out

Unsuspectingly Soused get's this when he mistakenly is given sake as Nitta put it 'Oh no, the Crying Begins'.

edited 25th Jul '10 2:50:26 PM by Raso

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#3760: Jul 25th 2010 at 2:57:52 PM

In the wild mass guess department, isn't Nekane the leading candidate for "secretly Arika in disguise"? (Though I personally think that if Arika is hiding in plain sight, the best candidate would be Shiizuna-sensei.)

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#3761: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:02:03 PM

She's the leading candidate, yes, but I personally find it highly doubtful unless she's a Starfish Character.

Also, I've been thinking, would Negima count as a Crapsaccharine World? There's some rather dark stuff going on and some pretty horrible things happen to people, yet it's still rather cheery and bright.

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#3762: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:07:13 PM

I wouldn't say it quite reaches the Crap Saccharine status. For something, the facade should be even cutesier and the horrors lurking below should be even bigger.

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#3763: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:08:56 PM

Crapsaccharine World the magic world might be that if everyone wasn't already warned of the dangers of going there.

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OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
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#3764: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:16:40 PM

Yeah, the Magical World has more grounds for Crap Sacchariness than the human one.

I haven't ever been too comfortable with the idea of mages basically claiming they have a better moral ground for knowing about magic than Muggles when THEY are the ones who still have slaves, mindwiping and such in their society.

edited 25th Jul '10 3:16:59 PM by OverMaster?!

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#3765: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:25:40 PM

Yeah, I've kind of been thinking of the magical world in regards to that. Tsukuyomi, Ostia and the slavery thing are a rather jarring contrast to the series image.

OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
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#3766: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:26:52 PM

Well, Tsukuyomi, IIRC, was said by Word of God to come from the human world. She just trained THAT hard.

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#3767: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:28:02 PM

Well slavery wasn't made legal till after the war, so really its just the senate's pr department at work I bet or people remembering the ways it was before.

Tsukuyomi is just a bad apple if ya look at the school everyone in it has some kind if emotional problem, just hers is a little more extreme.

edited 25th Jul '10 3:29:48 PM by Raso

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#3768: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:37:51 PM

Doesn't really matter where she's from, she didn't start doing anything special until this arc.

Tsukuyomi is just a bad apple if ya look at the school everyone in it has some kind if emotional problem, just hers is a little more extreme.

That's why I think it's borderline crapsaccharine. Negi's hometown was burned and petrified when he was about three or four, Asuna was a living weapon, Setsuna and Kotaro were ostracized by their demon families etc. Rakan was a slave gladiator (meaning the institution of slavery is not new over there) and the whole situation with Ostia and Arika to go with this all. It's still a fairly idealistic series, but the content is wayyyy darker than the puppy and rainbow imagery it sometimes has would suggest. Yes, I'm exaggerating the puppies and rainbow thing, I know.

edited 25th Jul '10 3:39:26 PM by Arha

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#3769: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:48:55 PM

The Magic World definitely counts, but I don't think that the series as a whole does. At worst, Negima is probably an Earn Your Happy Ending type of work. The Magic World counts because has the overlying sense of wonder giving way to a lot of horrible stuff happening in the background, such as the whole thing being a massive fabrication, the Senate, and Fate disintegrating people.

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#3770: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:55:28 PM

They said it was made Legal in Ostia after the war meaning that after the take over.. the senate made it legal. its probably not legal in the other countries. with Ostia's gate port right there in Mahora (atleast I believe so) Mahora and maybe even all of (japan's magic association) is pretty much an occupied country making the headmaster head of a Vichy type government. (which fully explains the kyoto arc) Ostia was probably a great place before everything.

Setsuna and Kotaro were ostracized by their demon families

Kotaro stated that the half dog tribe gets abandoned after birth.. I always got this as like how Turtles survive or Sayians.

Setsuna was more of a metaphor for Racism imo, ugly and hated by one set of people but beautiful to others. it happens in the real world all the time in japan as well.

so maybe the magic world is a Crapsaccharine World under the meglomesoptamian (no way thats spelled right) goverment. but Earth is pretty normal and outside of the first couple of chapters it wasn't presented any different.

edited 25th Jul '10 3:56:51 PM by Raso

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#3771: Jul 25th 2010 at 3:59:25 PM

Megalosembria. I think. Even if it was only legalized in Ostia, it was still around at least twenty years before the war began in wherever Rakan comes from. I suppose it doesn't really matter when it was legalized, though.

edited 25th Jul '10 4:00:52 PM by Arha

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#3772: Jul 25th 2010 at 4:10:56 PM

Megalosembria occupied Ostia hence the Governor-general they probably imposed all their laws on Ostia........if Rakan is from there.. that explains why Rakan didn't want to go there to meet Negi. Mind Blown.

edited 25th Jul '10 4:13:20 PM by Raso

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3774: Jul 25th 2010 at 7:30:39 PM

It's Megalomesembria (alternatively: Megalo-Mesembria, as it seems "Mesembria" is the original name - Confederatio Mesembrina "Mesembrian Confederation" or the like.)

And you guys do realize that Ostia is long destroyed save for the floating palace that Fate is currently occupying, right? The current "Ostia" is properly named "New Ostia".

edited 25th Jul '10 7:31:06 PM by MarqFJA

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#3775: Jul 25th 2010 at 7:45:43 PM

still some non-floating regions were under their control and survived or the survivors settled in different regions under the queen's control for a bit (only 3% of the population was killed) and this page which was well after rakan.

Really though with all that happened to her mother I don't see why Negi doesn't become the conqueror and pwn them all.

edited 25th Jul '10 7:52:44 PM by Raso

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