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Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#26: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:39:15 PM

If by "brilliant", you mean "embarrassing", then yeah. Best thread ever...

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#27: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:40:58 PM

I feel as if by taking the audiecnecs out of the audience, something irreplaceable has been lost.

Godspeed, audiecnecs. You'll find the video game icon for your mature preferences one of these days.

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#28: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:41:06 PM

An anthropomorphic hedgehog runs around gathering rings in a colourful and bright environment is more mature than an Italian Plumber (Who worked in Brooklyn) that fights turtles and angry mushroom on a regular basis.

No, they're both for more mature audiecnecs.

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#29: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:42:45 PM

Thanks Tangent. I can start taking this seriously now.

They tried making Sonic darker but it didn't go well for the hedgehog. That said, Mario went into dark territory too. Though it did pretty well.

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#30: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:44:27 PM

To be fair, Sonic has an "attitude" (which means he makes a mean face sometimes and is slightly conceited) and Eggman, Shadow and several minor characters have guns and stuff.

So no, I don't think Sonic is for more mature audiences than Mario, but I do think it's more prone to adopting a "Darker and Edgier" aesthetic on occasion in order to appear cool.

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Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#31: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:45:21 PM

They tried making Sonic darker but it didn't go well for the hedgehog. That said, Mario went into dark territory too. Though it did pretty well.

Competent writing helps. I personally thought Sonic Chronicles handled "Darker and Edgier" well, too.

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#32: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:46:21 PM

Mario tends to make things "darker" (starting to hate that word) via Nightmare Fuel, rather than making everything blatantly OMGEDGYTHEMES.

^ Also, yes.

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#33: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:46:25 PM

No! Tangent! I thought we were tight, bro! Why'd you get rid of the audiecnecs? sad

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#34: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:50:09 PM

If by "brilliant", you mean "embarrassing", then yeah. Best thread ever...

And if by "embarrassing", you mean "hilarious" then seconded.

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#35: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:51:54 PM

Isn't the entire character concept for Rouge "evil counterpart who can glide like Knuckles"? That's the long and short of it.

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#36: Nov 6th 2010 at 7:53:51 PM

I guess this just means that TV Tropes isn't for mature audiecnecs. They just flat out aren't acceptable here.

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#37: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:01:12 PM

Ah, Sonic Chronicles... now that was a fun game. Little easy for an RPG and a little short, but fun and entertaining nonetheless.

Now if only Bioware would get off their butts and give us that sequel, everything will be just smashing. I miss the good ol' days when Dr. Robotnik was a halfway-competent villain.

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#38: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:05:19 PM

I don't think either Sonic or Mario is for Mature audiences; they've had a game or two for Teen audiences, but most of their franchise appeals to the Everyone or Kids to Adults audiences.

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#40: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:11:22 PM

Well, yes he was, but that wasn't what I was getting at. I was referring to the old days when he didn't get usurped by whatever ancient evil he happens to be harnessing in the current game.

It's my fault for not elaborating on that point; my appologies.

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#41: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:11:49 PM

Isn't the entire character concept for Rouge "evil counterpart who can glide like Knuckles"? That's the long and short of it.
More like "neutral counterpart", but yeah pretty much.

[up][up][up][up] I need to finish that game (and Unleashed). Sounds like I missed one of Sonic's better titles.

edited 6th Nov '10 8:12:09 PM by Customer

elemcee Since: Dec, 2009
#42: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:30:37 PM

Well, I...think...that

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Yeah, I need to play Chronicles, too.surprised

edited 6th Nov '10 8:31:14 PM by elemcee

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#43: Nov 6th 2010 at 8:54:59 PM

My stomach hurts from laughing at this topic.

Thanks everyone! :D

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#44: Nov 6th 2010 at 9:00:08 PM

Sat AM and the Archie Comic definitely were, for a period of time.

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#45: Nov 6th 2010 at 9:46:38 PM

Unlike Duke Nukem, I have no problems playing either Super Mario or Sonic around my four-year-old cousin, so no.

Now, both games have had somewhat dark moments:

Super Mario Galaxy: Bowser's plot to rule a galactic empire results in the entire universe being (temporarily)destroyed. Also, Rosalina's tragic backstory and Luma's sacrifice.

Super Paper Mario: The whole game. I mean, the Final Boss is a possessed Luigi, for cryin' out loud! And and all the main characters get killed off at one point.

Sonic Adventure 2: The story as a whole got pretty serious around the time everyone gets to the ARK. Prof. Gerald's speech recorded right before his execution surprised me.

However though, both series are primarily lighthearted affairs on the whole.

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#46: Nov 6th 2010 at 10:59:43 PM

Neither series have been "mature." And I hope they never will be.

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#47: Nov 6th 2010 at 11:17:25 PM

The thread's originator amuses me in it's absurdity.

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#48: Nov 6th 2010 at 11:20:25 PM

Eh, I guess Sonic's tried to go for the darker plots than Mario overall, so I guess if you count "dark" as "mature", I suppose. The spin-off media tended to tell more complicated storylines - aside from the insanity that was The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, the other spin-offs tended to tell more complicated storylines. Compare this to the very light-hearted and episodic Mario cartoons.

Regardless, Sonic's still aimed pretty squarely at the same audience as Mario.

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#49: Nov 7th 2010 at 12:09:48 AM

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#50: Nov 7th 2010 at 12:15:28 AM

I love the order in which people discover these two threads.


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