Berserk

Beautiful fairy..... Did you read the same story I did?

A toast to god knows how many more chapters of Griffith getting everything he's ever wanted and laughing in karma's face all the while.

I'm not, but it wouldn't matter if I was. Miura is not God, after all.

Things change when you write, especially if you write something ongoing. Plots change, characters change in ways you didn't expect, take on a life of their own. You can find quotes from a lot of famous authors about this phenomenon. And then of course there's writer's block, which can happen to everyone.

@Corr Terek

I'm not one to suggest Miura's writing is god tier either. However his story is above the average Seinen author's writer. For one he doesn't do ridiculous with his privileges as a Seinen writer like Tenjho Tenge's Oh Great! and make absurd overexposure with nudity and intercourse. And when it is done Miura is able to properly time these things.

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@Nervemeister

Lol it's going to be quite difficult for Griffith to face the beautiful punishment of karma for his unacceptable and monstrous actions from the Golden Age arc but that be impossible. Why you're wondering but the answer is pretty simple: as a God Hand he and the rest of its members are able to make "karma" bend far over for any of their whims.

edited 31st Dec '13 11:09:11 AM by Couchpotato20

I kind of want to see what would happen if Griffith met a Circle of Exalted. From what I've heard about that series it could go very bad for him.

Yeah. It's all but confirmed that Laser-Guided Karma in the Berserk-verse is just about inverted thanks to the fact that God (as in the supreme entity itself) is literally evil incarnate. Therefore its the genuinely good/virtuous individuals who are the "sinners" and thus suffer the most (overall).

edited 31st Dec '13 7:05:47 PM by nervmeister

@Nervemeister

Yeah sucks. Just the idea of the afterlife for good moral natured folks like Godo dying from old and having to experience "The Abyss" gives me the shivers.

Actually, apart from the Eclipse and Griffith, karma isn't that bad.

The only people who survive the inquisition arc were the ones who were good and not willing to rely on a miracle. The monsters life doesn't seems to be enjoyable, and their ends definitively isn't. Even Griffith is debatable: he got what he thinks he wanted, but for all we know, he doesn't enjoy it and will tear the world apart because of that(from what I remember, he is the black shepherd who will try to lead humanity to its doom.

Whelp, I just read part of NightmareFuel.Berserk, out of curiosity as to what is all this hub-ub about horrific things being done to innocent people and what not.

Yikes! What rating is this manga and its animated adaptation being published/aired under?! The discretionarily-implied vulgarity in some instances make me think that this would be banned as "obscene" under US laws without censoring.

... And for some unfathomable reason, it just increased my desire to start reading this manga. Bile Fascination, maybe?

Don't do it if you are easily scared, easily disturbed, or if you have a weak stomach.

edited 2nd Mar '14 10:47:07 AM by SaintDeltora

I've stomached Mai-chan's Daily Life from start to finish, as well as Horihone Saizou's many ero-guro works. Does that count as sufficient?

edited 2nd Mar '14 11:25:02 AM by MarqFJA

I don't know what either of those are, so I cannot help you.

Do you read Gantz? I find Gantz to be pretty comparable in content, though I feel that Berserk is actually more optimistic than Gantz.

I'll be PM'ing you my summary of Mai-chan's Daily Life; I don't want to risk violating the rules by putting in a post (even if spoiler-tagged), as its gruesomeness is at least part of the reason the manga's article was axed from this site.

As for Horihone Saizou... Well, no torture or mutilation, but the guy is really fixated on grotesque eroticism and the like. Just... Look, take my word for it: Most people would be utterly squicked at the idea that he thinks the stuff he draws about can turn anyone on (and no, I'm not turned on by it per se — I just don't let the squicky stuff get in the way of enjoying the non-squicky stuff).

Oh, and for the record, the reason I went and read under the spoilers is because I was curious about the character of Griffith. I vaguely knew of the name before, but today my curiosity was fully piqued when he was depicted in the latest episode of a web-video series as the loving and totally non-villainous father of Sayaka Miki (the mother being one Uesugi Kenshin — a female descendant of the guy by that name who bears the ancestor's name as a clan tradition, mind you — from Sengoku Rance).

No, I don't, though I plan on doing so sometime.

edited 2nd Mar '14 11:48:42 AM by MarqFJA

That's more of a thematic thing than an actual content thing, though. Like, Gantz doesn't have anywhere near as much rape, and significantly less civilian death. It's just that in Gantz, people are thrown headfirst and without warning in the world's horrors and we watch them struggle to survive without becoming something just as bad, whereas in Berserk's people rise up out the filth and becoming heroic.

It's difference between watch the world fall to pieces and watching people try to pick up the pieces, basically.

Oh yeah, definitely. I just mentioned the difference in tone because that might affect how one views the other content.

... Yeah, so, I think you guys understand my confusion and amazement at discovering that a character being depicted as a paragon of righteousness and good fatherhood was canonically a sociopathic manipulator who nevertheless had some good in him, but ended up doing an epic Face–Heel Turn due to a Despair Event Horizon that was caused by discovering what otherwise is an attempt at moral goodness on part of his two most trusted comrades, but to him is the harshest slap in the face you could ever deal to him at the time.

Griffith's also a pretty big Villain with Good Publicity these days, and appears genuinely heroic to everyone who doesn't know how he got his power.

Yep. Griffith's fall/rise to power is very much worth reading.

I'll take your word for it.

Unwatching thread to avoid further spoilers. Will return when I get around to Archive Binging it.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-03-10/berserk-manga-slated-to-resume-on-april-11

Awesome news!

In other completely unrelated news, there's also a new iDOLM@STER game coming out in May!

edited 10th Mar '14 10:18:59 PM by tvsgood

&%#$

edited 11th Mar '14 1:56:41 PM by TheCuriousFan

Oh god no, we just went through this long draught...