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SabresEdge Show an affirming flame from a defense-in-depth Since: Oct, 2010
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#34751: Jul 27th 2014 at 1:50:12 PM

The impression I got from the Aubrey Maturin book series was that the Royal Navy was livid at having to fight on yet another front instead of blockading Napoleon like they were supposed to be doing. The fact that the big American 44-gun frigates were rampaging through their own frigate line so that they had to dispatch 74s to patrol the American station did not help at all, and informed opinion in Britain was "this is a stupid sideshow that might just cost us Canada that all could have been avoided if we'd been a little smarter about the whole impressment issue", since understandably they viewed Napoleon as the big threat.

The war wasn't very popular in the north, either, since the merchants made their living by trading with the Brits. Although Nantucket Island took a rather pragmatic approach to the issue: blockaded from the mainland, the fishermen made a killing by selling supplies at an exorbitant markup to the British ships.

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#34752: Jul 27th 2014 at 2:04:14 PM

[up] Yes, I remember reading somewhere that New England was unofficially neutral, and as such was spared attack.

The impression I got from the Aubrey Maturin book series was that the Royal Navy was livid at having to fight on yet another front instead of blockading Napoleon like they were supposed to be doing.

Overstretch is nothing new. I think the British Military is used to it.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#34753: Jul 27th 2014 at 5:18:38 PM

They infamously had to defend Malta with three biplanes during World War II. Biplanes with bulls-eyes already painted on them. [lol]

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#34754: Jul 27th 2014 at 5:21:33 PM

Hey, don't knock the Gladiator.

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#34755: Jul 27th 2014 at 5:23:41 PM

Faith, Hope, and Charity. You've got to believe.

(And Desperation as a backup, though that'd be for the Falklands. ...and a lot of Hurricanes too.)

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#34756: Jul 27th 2014 at 5:30:50 PM

Yeah, I love the Legacy Names of the four fighters they have based in the Falklands, just because of that last one. That is so British.

edited 27th Jul '14 5:31:01 PM by AFP

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#34757: Jul 27th 2014 at 5:46:57 PM

[up]I'm constantly surprised there isn't a rig called "Duct Tape" or just "Jerry".

Hmmm... come to think "Conduct" would work as a name... <rubs chin>

edited 27th Jul '14 5:51:11 PM by Euodiachloris

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#34758: Jul 27th 2014 at 6:39:58 PM

"The Mighty Mallard", because it's held together with Duck Tape?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#34759: Jul 27th 2014 at 8:58:39 PM

I like Jerry. Or maybe Gaffer.

Oh really when?
AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#34760: Jul 27th 2014 at 9:04:15 PM

As I sat waiting at the E-Club barbershop to get my hair cut, I noticed that the guy ahead of me was a Colonel. Why does a Colonel go to the Enlisted Club to get his hair cut?

Probably because they have reserved parking for Colonels in front of the E-Club. Why they decided to do that is one of those great mysteries of the Air Force (to be fair, they have reserved spots for Chiefs at the Officers' Club, leading me to think someone got confused when they put in a request for parking signs...)

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#34761: Jul 27th 2014 at 10:07:25 PM

Nope, it's so that the high and might field grades can see what those enlisted types are up to.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#34762: Jul 28th 2014 at 12:23:42 AM

At the Enlisted Club in the modern Air Force? Not much. Coffee at Rickenbaker's, Kareoke on Thursday nights, or the lunch buffet. Otherwise it's all Commander's Calls in there lol

edited 28th Jul '14 12:24:10 AM by AFP

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#34765: Jul 28th 2014 at 6:55:04 AM

[up]What they're getting a better aircraft than the F-111's that went to the great hanger in the sky? They are part of a multi-national team?

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#34766: Jul 28th 2014 at 8:05:52 AM

Ah, F-35, you so snazzy.

...On the other hand...is it normal that the first word that came to my mind when I saw its picture the first time was "fat"?

Also, what exactly is its function supposed to be?

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l3wt from Land of Hills and Fjords Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
#34767: Jul 28th 2014 at 8:09:49 AM

Hey, now. We've already given the F-35 repeated knobbled stick beatings, thoroughly.

But to answer your last question, its function is a general-purpose fighter in the same vein as the F-16, but with CTOL, STOVL and carrier based variants.

edited 28th Jul '14 8:11:50 AM by l3wt

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#34768: Jul 28th 2014 at 8:10:01 AM

EVERYTHING

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optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
#34769: Jul 28th 2014 at 8:16:41 AM

If I understand correctly, it's meant to be capable of doing everything- ground attack, intercepting, escort stuff...

Whilst it sounds good on paper, making one fighter to do everything is harder than it sounds.

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entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#34770: Jul 28th 2014 at 8:19:25 AM

[up]Multiple variants for one platform.

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#34771: Jul 28th 2014 at 8:32:46 AM

And here I thought simplicity was the virtue in military engineering...

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l3wt from Land of Hills and Fjords Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
#34772: Jul 28th 2014 at 9:32:17 AM

Technically speaking it's never bad to have one platform capable of performing several tasks, it's just that as far we can tell, the F-35 is... not that platform. At the very least, Lockheed Martin appears to be having a hell of a time trying to contort it into doing as advertised.

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#34773: Jul 28th 2014 at 9:34:21 AM

So the problem is with the marketing men?

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entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#34774: Jul 28th 2014 at 9:35:06 AM

It was for simplicity. It's just that we're still at the point technology-wise where it's not yet really feasible for a "A + B = plane B; A + C = plane C; A + D = plane D" situation.

edited 28th Jul '14 9:36:07 AM by entropy13

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#34775: Jul 28th 2014 at 9:49:30 AM

[up][up] Probably with those that hold the purse strings in various countries — without it, the F-35 wouldn't have been necessary, at least not in this fashion.

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