Sid Meier's Civilization Series (Main Titles)

It just means that it will not kick off immediately when you conquer a city, you will have to wait for the occupation counter to end. Which it will, eventually. Then, if you have more than 100 citizens in your Empire, it is better than Notre Dame.

Civilization V is on sale today and I decided to pick it up. I bought the Complete Edition, which cost me 3.8 USD according to Google's converter. Any gameplay tips? I did have some experience with strategy games, but they were of a different type (Final Fantasy Tactics/Advance/A2, Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together).

You should play a training wheels game first so that the tutorials will get you up to speed. Without at least that context, it's hard to discuss any more advanced strategies and tips.

If you know how strategy games work, you should start on difficulty 3, going below won't bring you anything.

You should also start with a civ that is easy to handle if you want to go for a random map - Poland, Egypt, China or Arabia are very good choices if you want to learn the ropes. You also have specialized civs if you want to learn more about something specific (Celts or Ethiopia for Faith, Babylon or Korea for Science, Brazil or France for Culture).

Venice is a good starting civ I hear

Also,I just got Brave new world for £2

Who gave the Barbarians horses?..My capital city has been pillaged many times over already!

edited 22nd Jul '16 10:23:55 AM by Ultimatum

Hmm? As long as you maintain a garrison unit, the smelly barbs shouldn't be able to do much. And if you're that worried, take the first policy in the Honor tree.

yeah,I usually keep a garrison unit nearby,it's when you have a load turn up suddenly that you get problems

I feel like Honor opening is good enough to justify taking it in most cases. Being able to use just starting Warriors to deal with a nearby camp is great, plus the Culture boosts are nice for early game policies.

I was surprised at how good Venice is when I played them on a whim before.

I normally don't take Honor.

edited 22nd Jul '16 10:40:20 AM by Arha

A single-point dip into Honor is really useful in the early game and can carry you surprisingly far during the age of exploration, when the map still spawns barbarians like popcorn.

I tend to play tall with a minimal military so it doesn't really do much for me. It's not like I think the bonus is bad but it always seems like there's something better to grab.

I mean, meeting barbs is inevitable. You're bound to have to hide your workers/settlers at some point because you can't destroy a unit of brutes/spearmen in one turn, so you might as well get something out of it.

Is a reason I tend to research Archery first unless I'm sure I can afford not to, like on archipelagos.

edited 22nd Jul '16 11:08:04 AM by FergardStratoavis

OK,I've just finished my first game on the Brave New world expansion

I was playing as Polynesia

-Barbarians are now an actual threat,which makes a change from being a minor annoyance

-The A.I.s founded every religion before I could,I was left at a serious disadvantage because of this

-Uprisings when you have at least 10 unhappiness is an interesting consequence,I spent the last half of my game at 15 unhappiness because I made Poland fight Morocco because they were my ally until they betrayed me

-I seriously should have paid more attention to tourism..oops.

-I should have explored the map more as I only had two city states for allies

That's all my thoughts for now

edited 23rd Jul '16 4:00:25 PM by Ultimatum

I think the Honor opening is better on Archipelagos (especially the largest maps) because it will take a very long time before you can clean Barbarian camps on isolated islands. The AI is also very bad at destroying them when there is water.

The AI is hilariously bad at conducting war over any body of water. In my last game on an archipelago, Gajah Mada and Theodora, each of whom had an army to rival mide, declared war on me simultaniously — and all they did was send triremes, one by one to my shores, to be easily picked off with one crossbowman, one trebuchet, and the coastal city defences.

I remember farming gold off for Spain for years just by repeatedly sacking cities with sea beggars because she refused to build any ships or archers to stop me.

So where Napoleon excels in direct sword-and-gun warfare, 'de Medici specializes in the spy game. Can spies in Civ VI do more beyond gather strategic decisions made by other civs, though?

Personally, I'm kinda hoping there's also one more "late-bloomer" civ that specializes in the Modern/Information Era. While admittedly such civs won't be very popular for getting their unique traits/units/buildings active late-game (unless they also have another secondary bonus that can carry them to the Modern/Information Era), it'll definitely make late-game much more interesting.

So they kinda went Beam Me Up, Scotty! here with the Flying Squadron, as most reliable historians tell that these many highborn women that accompanied Catherine were A) definitely not Femme Fatales - Catherine was very pious, it was not for show and B) not pretty spies either. Their bigger role was to avoid the bad consequences of Testosterone Poisoning during difficult diplomatic sessions by providing influential men with calm, polite and pleasant company so that they would remain cool-headed and rational during the ensuing sessions. Also, to shame any man who would behave incorrectly in the middle of all these beautiful ladies.

The Civ looks interesting though. In V, France was kinda boring to play since Tall Cultural was their only option (at least, Polynesia was Wide Cultural).

Additional notes:

• she seems to speak French with a noticeable and (from what I gathered) accurate Italian accent. Neat.
• however, red wine in a champagne flûte: not neat. Come on Firaxis. You had one job.
• while she was not the biggest builder in France's history (that would be her late stepfather, François I), Chateau improvements fit Catherine rather well as she had a personal favorite in Chenonceau which she helped improve (after snagging it from her husband's mistress Diane de Poitiers no less).

edited 26th Jul '16 7:57:11 AM by Julep

To be fair to Napoleon's France, the only feasible way to snag World Wonders and optimize cultural Great People generation (for City of Light's bonuses) was if you funnel Production and slot specialists to their capital. Polynesia's UI means they benefit more from having lots of coastal land as opposed to developing tall megacities.

I know, but usually tall gameplay is much more boring than wide gameplay. You don't rely on exploring and you do not have to settle many cities. And since you get better border growth (especially playing cultural), startegic city placement to deny resources is much less of an issue than it is with wide civs and their poor border growth.

I notice a lot of people don't seem that satisfied with the choice of Catherine for France. What's your take on it? I'm personally glad we're not seeing yet another depiction of Napoleon, though I think if I were choosing a less-often represented but still iconic French ruler I'd have gone with either Cardinal Richelieu or Georges Clemenceau.

I love it. She is one of those leaders whose influence in history is vastly understated because later historians tended to depict her as God Save Us from the Queen! for various reasons (being Italian, being Catholic, being in charge during St Bartholomew, being the "wife" to Diane de Poitiers' "mistress", etc...). She ruled during one of the darkest times of French history and managed to keep the country intact and mostly running while actually preparing the ground for Henri IV and the Bourbon dynasty - if you want to look at what an incompetent ruler can do during difficult times, check Charles VI and you will see the difference.

I would have been equally happy with other usual victims of Historical Villain Upgrade Richelieu or Louis XI, however, but that wouldn't have helped the gender ratio in the game. Technically, Richelieu never officially ruled, unlike Cathy who was Queen Regent for a few years. Louis XI is much too obscure, but I think he definitely would deserve a spot among the great strategists in history - one of the most famous medieval historians in France, Georges Bordonove, considers that the three greatest kings France had were Louis IX, XI and XIV.

And, well, let's be honest: if we want a female ruler in France, it's Cathy or Bust. Louis IX's mother Blanche de Castille was wise and respected but she immediately stepped down when her son really entered the picture. Anne de Bretagne was, as her name suggests, from Brittany, which she reunited with France.

If you want someone to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Elizabeth, Maria Theresa or Isabella, Catherine de'Medici is the only viable option in French history.

Although if you want to make the Evil Civ game with only the craziest leaders of their respective countries, I guess Fredegund would deserve a spot.

edited 26th Jul '16 9:39:11 AM by Julep

I don't suppose you find it a bit steretypical for the French leader to be sipping red wine while she conducts diplomacy?

In a champagne glass. What a faux-pas.

The whole "Flying Squadron" thing was actually about Catherine putting people at ease before diplomacy, so sharing a glass of red wine probably fits her - I know not if she enjoyed the bottle however. A glass of wine is better and easier to animate than two Maids of Honour around her.

Maybe they just wanted for people to think of Cersei Lannister (but actually skilled at politics).

edited 26th Jul '16 9:48:02 AM by Julep