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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40226: Feb 4th 2016 at 9:04:28 PM

I just viewed them as proof of him being a punk ass bitch.

But, he was a more compelling villain than Anakin in the prequel trilogy, though.

Also, while I do like the European longsword design of his saber, how did the crossguard beams not burn his arm/hand?

edited 4th Feb '16 9:09:18 PM by MarkVonLewis

mona.soyun Since: Sep, 2014
#40227: Feb 4th 2016 at 9:41:42 PM

I loved his temper tantrums! :D

All that pointless rage... Trying to be a badass when he's just an angry little boy... It's the beeeeeeest... :D

And when he killed his father... Trying to be all final and ruthless, and at the last moment Han caresses his cheek... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hey! Hey, Ben! Try resisting the call to the light side with all this selfless unconditional love haunting your conscience... XD

Maybe you have to be a parent... I dunno, but he's perfect. XD

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#40228: Feb 4th 2016 at 9:43:39 PM

[up]I think that's the sad bit: he's a better Anakin than Anakin, but falls miles short of Darth Vader.

Which makes me boggle even more on the mess Lucas made of Anakin's arc. tongue

Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#40229: Feb 4th 2016 at 10:25:02 PM

I saw The Force Awakens three times. I love Kylo Ren! Yes, he's evil, but he is also super tall and muscular with long wild jet-black hair and pale skin, and is a literal space knight down to the surcoat. And also he is tormented and complex and has a tragic past. And extra bonus points for his extremely ambiguous dynamic with Rey.

Rey won me over with her first, nearly-dialogueless scene. Also because she reminded me of a young Vuvalini from Mad Max.

I ship Finn and Poe.

The old guard was great too.

mona.soyun Since: Sep, 2014
#40230: Feb 4th 2016 at 11:37:56 PM

Euo — Oh, I know... In his every scene, I was like, "This is what Anakin was supposed to be."

I liked Rey.

If you ever wondered what my life is really like moment to moment, just imagine a man in sweatpants and two half-naked boys staring at me blankly while I'm saying, "No. No. The one I'm pointing at... NO." ;D

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#40231: Feb 5th 2016 at 1:52:04 AM

I like Fin and Rey.

To answer the light saber question though.

This does a decent job of it and in an amusing manner to.

Who watches the watchmen?
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#40232: Feb 5th 2016 at 2:49:43 AM

The interpretation I heard about the temper tantrums and adopted is that Kylo wants to be the kind of villain who kills underlings who fail him or bring him bad news. But he can't quite bring himself to actually kill his underlings (what with that whole pesky 'call of the light'). So he has to settle for destroying objects instead.

Be not afraid...
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#40233: Feb 5th 2016 at 7:24:54 AM

A dark path the character walks who, unlike Anakin "Emo Teen" Skywalker..doesn't quite want to go down that path.

It's not that "George Lucas ruined my childhood", it's that Lucas can't write characters worth a damn. Kylo is the Anakin we needed, a boy who's turned evil but not of his own choice (or so he thinks). It's that indication of genuine inner turmoil and not Wangst that makes a good character.

edited 5th Feb '16 7:26:24 AM by TairaMai

All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#40234: Feb 5th 2016 at 8:20:54 AM

[up]Exactly. Unlike the "I'm turning to the Dark Side because... it says I do so in the script, despite my misgivings and passions", we actually get "my naivety, risk-taking and passion got me led down the garden path and it's tearing me to pieces until I really, deliberately choose to fuck up".

edited 5th Feb '16 9:01:15 AM by Euodiachloris

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40235: Feb 5th 2016 at 10:37:27 AM

Yeah, upon further reflection, Kylo Ren was actually a decent villain. Also I looked up how lightsabers work on Wookiepedia. Plasma beams suspended in containment fields that contain the heat, thus protecting the wielder. I still think chainswords are both cooler and they have the benefit of NOT cauterizing wounds. tongue

But yeah Ren was definitely better than Anakin. Finn was a pretty legit character, but goddamn I think Rey stole the show.

Also anyone else feel like the last scene would have been so much better if it had taken place on Dagobah?

edited 5th Feb '16 10:39:04 AM by MarkVonLewis

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#40236: Feb 5th 2016 at 1:21:36 PM

this is the end of the line for my military career.
Yay for you! Now just put your career up against the wall, and make sure the blindfold is tied tight while we line up to take our shots. evil grin
throwing a tantrum and destroying some terminals? Some poor tech is gonna have to fix that, you petulant child
[lol] This was literally my exact thought on seeing that scene.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#40237: Feb 5th 2016 at 1:27:49 PM

Has anyone seen the snl skit where Driver parodies his own character? Because it's gold.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40238: Feb 5th 2016 at 4:32:31 PM

I have been on a wine kick as of late. I do like how it lacks the carbonated sting of beer. So far I've tried mostly merlot and today some white wine that was ok, but not great. Also Paul Giamotti's character in Sideways was a dumbass, as merlot is damn good.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#40239: Feb 5th 2016 at 5:17:19 PM

[up]If you like merlot, the odds are good that pinotage and pinot noir are up your alley. smile Even more berry-roundness. wink

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40240: Feb 5th 2016 at 5:22:53 PM

Euo: I'll have to grab a bottle of pinot noir tomorrow after work then. Give it a try.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#40241: Feb 5th 2016 at 5:31:29 PM

[up]I prefer the small bottles, when I can get them. Less messing with stoppers and stuff. smile

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40242: Feb 5th 2016 at 5:32:21 PM

Eh, finishing a regular bottle is nothing to me. Like killing a 6 pack, it is.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#40243: Feb 5th 2016 at 5:49:25 PM

[up]Dude, that's just not healthy, and you know it. Granted, you probably mass double what I do, but the amount of alcohol in a single bottle of wine is still a bad idea for a bloke when downed in one sitting.

Your liver is not a toy. :/

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40244: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:15:45 PM

The usual rate of metabolization is 12 oz of beer, 5 0z wine, or 1.5 oz of liquor per hour. That's considered one drink. A bottle of wine is only 750ml, which equals about 5 glasses.

Plus Lemmy drank a bottle of Jack a day for 30 years, and he lived until he was 70. I'll be fine.

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#40245: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:25:28 PM

Reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut frequently pointing out that he'd been smoking unfiltered Pall Malls from age twelve, and he was going to sue the Surgeon General for false advertising.

Fresh-eyed movie blog
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40246: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:33:53 PM

Way I see it, everyone dies. It's a side effect of life. Some run from that beast all their lives, forsaking decadence for a few more trite years. I'd rather put the pedal to the metal down that highway blasting "Sail North" and run Death over, the skeletal bitch.

Truth be told decadence is fun. And I'd prefer a short, fun life over a long boring one.

edited 5th Feb '16 6:34:16 PM by MarkVonLewis

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#40247: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:45:12 PM

[up]If That Dungeon Mistress of yours becomes a real fixture in your life, you might have to rethink. She could well want you around for as long as possible.

Social ties, bro: it's not just your decision. *hugs* (Also, I'd put a vote in for "crotchety, old and rickety you", too — but the casting one is who's closest and able to jab you in the ribs.) wink

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#40248: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:46:54 PM

Ehh that is grossly oversimplifying a few lucky winners of genetic lottery vs the population at large in the excessive smoking and drinking thing.

Leradny: If you mean the undercover boss one, then yes I have. It is pretty amusing.

edited 5th Feb '16 6:47:49 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Who watches the watchmen?
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40249: Feb 5th 2016 at 7:06:06 PM

Euo: fair enough point, I guess. I dunno lately I've been in a bunch of physical pain - knee has beenough acting up, foot has been hurting since some full milk crates fell on it, and I pulled something in my arm several days. Alcohol is nothing if not a great anesthetic.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#40250: Feb 6th 2016 at 6:46:13 AM

I'd put a vote in for "crotchety, old and rickety you", too
I've got the crotchetynote  and the rickety, and according to my kids I'm old ... does that mean I'm safe to challenge the Reaper to the best out of 17 rounds of Twister?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

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