Castlevania General

I just find it kind of funny that the American manual writers felt the need to come up with an explanation as to why Dracula inexplicably has stuff the helps the Belmonts stashed in his furniture.

So I finished Mirror of Fate. Overall very pleasant experience. I have to say while Simon's design is okay, Trevor and Alucard's new design kicks ALL kinds of ass.

They managed to be bishonen in a decidedly not pretty game. They rule.

And I am totally making an entry for That One Boss if enough people agree that the Resurrected Demon Lord fight was BULLSHIT.

Lords of Shadow actually has very good art direction on the whole. it's probably my favorite dark fantasy art outside of Dark Souls, which surprised even me because I tend to like the way japanese games look a little more.

I'd like to thank Unnoun for sharing this video on the Metal Gear thread:

Spread this to all your fellow Konami fans.

Wait, I think I'm missing something here; Castlevania's been "abandoned?" It hasn't been that long since LOS2, has it?

edited 27th Apr '15 4:43:49 PM by HamburgerTime

There a reason Konami abandoned the 2D Metroidvania games? I thought the DS games did really well, if memory serves.

Because IGA left and no one's going to step up to take over as of now.

Though to be fair, what else is there that can be done with the original universe? They've pretty much exhausted every possibility for Metroidvania and Classicvania at this point.

The Demon War of 1999?

Okay, that^note I still think that should be a Classicvania and not a Metroidvania. But what else is there besides the Demon Castle War?

I'd like to see a Gothic Horror Casttlevania game developed by From Software covering Julius doing his (in)famous Perma-Kill to Dracula.

edited 28th Apr '15 10:55:51 AM by YoKab

Something explaining where the Belmonts went after they just decided to leave; like did they become mountain dwellers or something?

Actually, how big was the Belmont Clan to begin with?

edited 28th Apr '15 10:57:52 AM by Ssj3Gojira

I think Castlevania Lament Of Innocence covered it, along with Matthias becoming Dracula.

Also, the Belmont were initially a noble family. Leon, first user of the whip, was a knight and later on, a baron.

Leon snapped when he realized his best friend tricked him to become a vampire (and ended up being forced to kill his fiance), and the Belmonts showed great power and this led to the people of Transylvania fearing them. Due to this, they were banished and lived away from civilization for a long time, until 1476 when Dracula waged war upon humanity. At this time, no other person, man or woman, was able to stand up against Dracula's forces. Leon's descendants returned to hunt the night, the rest is history...

edited 28th Apr '15 11:04:54 AM by YoKab

On an unreleated sidenote, John Carpenter would have been a solid composer for Castlevania 1999

edited 28th Apr '15 12:02:18 PM by YoKab

I kind of meant where they all went after Richter's time.

Fair enough, they pretty much disapeared (forcing others to do the dirty work), until suddenly in 1999, some guy named Julius ripps off Dracula's melon and shits down his neck!

Yeah, could've used some explaining I guess.

edited 28th Apr '15 11:41:28 AM by YoKab

Seriously, how does a clan as renowned as the Belmonts just drop off the face of the Earth like that?

Also, how did the Morrris Clan become a thing since before Bloodlines there was never any mention of any branch families. Were they are subset of the Belmonts that immigrated to America or something, and how did they even get a hold of the Vampire Killer to begin with?

Not much to say

After Alucard being forced to kill his own father in 1797, the Belmont clan disappeared and the Vampire Killer was entrusted to the Morris family. In 1897, Quincy Morris kept Dracula at bay. In 1917, Elizabeth Bartley resurrected Dracula, but both were stopped by John Morris and Eric Lecarde.

John used the Vampire Killer, but because he was not a true Belmont, the whip sapped his energy and brought his life to an untimely end. The whip was later used by his son, Jonathan.

By the time of the Demon Castle War in 1999, the whip had presumably returned to the Belmonts, or to be more specefic, Julius. What happened to the Morris Clan is unknown.

I feel like a Castlevania 1999 game developed by From Software would cover all these holes...

edited 28th Apr '15 12:00:11 PM by YoKab

I mean, doesn't have to be Classic Castlevania storyline, but I just don't get why they stopped doing 2D Metroidvanias altogether. We can have a reboot and still make 2D games.

Maybe they should collaborate with Nintendo to make a new 2D Metroidvania Crossover with the title... ''Metroidvania''

edited 28th Apr '15 12:15:16 PM by YoKab

well the 2d games had stagnated in terms of mechanics. order of ecclesia and aria of sorrow were the two greatest games to have come out afterwards, and sales were dwindling. without some sort of massive re-invention, they would have continued to sell poorly.

this would be fine but i'd rather just have from do a reboot or non-canon game where they could do whatever they wanted. i don't care about the iga timeline anymore tbh.

edited 28th Apr '15 1:08:37 PM by wehrmacht

The Morrises, along with the Graveses, Baldwins, and Schneiders if you count them, are supposedly families with Belmont blood, so what probably happened is a Belmont married into each of these families.

But why did the Morris Clan get it the whip then and not the others?

Because they were in the book?

i really have no idea

As someone who has read the original Dracula norvel, I just want to say: making the Quincey Morris of all people related to the Belmonts and not the Harkers was a stupid decision.

After the great Demon Castle War of 1999, Dracula's Castle can no longer manifest itself in a physical form on this Earth, and is trapped in a lunar eclipse.

However, in places where people frequently confront — or run away from — their hardships in life, where people's souls grow weak, it still has the power to take on a twisted form of the places they are familiar with, and trapping people with a portal to the dimensional interstice where it lies. And someone must be take up the task to stop it...

In 2005, a young man named Jason Baldwin, a student at a university, runs onto the campus to check the experiments he is running in a laboratory. But when the door seals shut behind him and the school's clock tower chimes thirteen, it becomes apparent something is amiss...

(Alternate character: a young woman named Ginger Graves, who runs onto campus to check on the progress of some code she is running in a computer lab.)

(No, I don't exactly care that these are excuse plots.)

Alternatively we can ignore all that and stick with Sonia Belmont being the matriarch.

Starting with an infamous but rarely-mentioned Juese Belmont, they began being consumed with worldly pleasures, such as a sexually loose lifestyle, involvement in political affairs of the day, and teabagging opponents in FPS games. As such, they became unfit for the task of challenging Dracula, and others had to take up their mantle.

You forgot the incidents in 1830, 1844, 1852, and 1944.

edited 28th Apr '15 7:26:39 PM by GlennMagusHarvey