Glen Quagmire: Likable or not?

Not likable, for me. If the world in Family Guy was sane he'd undoubtedly have been arrested by now.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

He probably has been. He made an offhand reference to "Megan's Law" at one point in the context of the Griffins letting him watch their kids while they were off doing something.

Did anyone expect him to die in the last episode? Since they already did a domestic abuse episode involving him and another one in the Cleveland show (with Quagmire's parallel character) it seemed too recycled, I was expecting a surprise.

Yeah, no doubt about that.

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I'm gonna be very candid here, Quagmire used to be one of the funniest characters of the show, but sooner or later, that all changes. I agreed with some people, Quagmire went from a pervert to a huge hypocritical jerk ever since "Jerome is the Black" came out. Quagmire will crack me up from time to time nowadays, but I don't like how the writers are doing to his character in the past 5 seasons.

I used to like Quagmire, but later on like everybody his Jerkass levels became unbearable and even worse he's become a favorite of the writers who constantly try to make him seem sympathetic or "right."

Most of the problems came when they tried to make Quagmire one of the more lucid characters. Most of the characters in Seth's shows that are 'lucid' really aren't, they're just retreads of the wacko characters, only twice as hypocritical and with the irritating tendency to be the Designated Hero of the story (eg. Lois, Brian, Hayley, Francine), not to mention often lacking the benefit of being as funny as the wacko ones. There are no real Straight Men anymore, and even if there were, Quagmire wouldn't make a good one.

I could argue one of the better points of The Cleveland Show is that they just rolled with this and established pretty much everyone as an demented hypocrite.

edited 3rd Mar '14 7:23:51 PM by Psi001

Eh, with Hayley and Francine they were quickly made to be just as "bad" as the Designated Villain characters, while the Designated Villain types often had sympathetic motives or at least weren't all wrong.

Part of why American Dad has never gotten as bad as Family Guy did at its worst: nobody's a designated hero, but nobody's a Hate Sink either. They all have their ups and downs depending on the context (and quite varying interpretations episode-to-episode, i've noticed).

I dunno, the problem is that despite the greyness, about 99% of the show still concludes in a black and white manner with Stan admitting he was wrong while the other (who is often just the lesser of two evils) is enabled. Seriously how many times has Hayley been made to admit she was wrong and faced any sort of comeuppance like Stan? Even in extreme cases such as 'Bollocks To Stan' and 'Pulling Double Booty'? How many episodes have revolved around The Unfair Sex for Francine? They might at least make more gags at their hypocrisy, but it's futile when the Aesop (usually always directed to Stan and only Stan) still tends to be the part played straight, arguably even more so than Family Guy.

I could argue Family Guy has at least gotten past the point of just using the Bumbling Dad formula over and over, directing Aesops at other characters and even Deconstructing Lois and Brian for being full of crap every once in a while (not as often as they should but still more than their American Dad counterparts).

edited 3rd Mar '14 7:35:14 PM by Psi001

I recall one of Quagmire's first appearances was Peter just trying to force a "wacky neighbor" moment out of him. Or what about that time he babysat for the Griffins? It could be funny how unfunny Quagmire was when he was trying to be funny.

I'm not saying Quagmire can't have moments of clarity, but there's a difference between that and trying to make him into a prudish Grumpy Bear archetype who bitterly self deprecates everything. Add to that the Comedic Sociopathy and Rule of Funny humor is used so frequently it's impossible to make a Straight Man who isn't a complete hypocrite.

edited 7th Mar '14 4:39:36 PM by Psi001

Cleveland and pre-cancellation Brian were the closest this show had to straightmen.

Cleveland is now basically 'black Peter' and half the fanbase hate Brian for being a sleazy hypocrite.

"And even though it's pretty much never happened due to timelines and all, his indifference during Brian's funeral will not be forgotten. "

That actually still happened, even after Stewie saved Brian????!!!!!!

He's a rapist. No.

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He's annoying and unfunny. So..nah

edited 12th Oct '14 3:52:57 PM by Teddy

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I used to find him likable, now I don't. Frankly I could easily say he was never likable and not exactly be wrong.

edited 12th Oct '14 4:58:56 PM by VeryMelon

I don't know how I feel about him.

At one point, however, he was one of those characters who in real life would be incredibly unlikable and yet very hilarious to watch.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

Exactly. And a prolific serial rapist at that.

edited 12th Oct '14 4:51:30 PM by Karmameter

Moved to State Of Bedlam.

Really? I honestly could never imagine someone who has a personality like Glen in real life. Even the way he acted in the earlier seasons.

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Maybe part of his humor was the fact that you can't get away with stuff like that in real life.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

He's a Family Guy character, so that's a no by default. And that's coming from someone who utterly abhors Brian and found his Take That, Scrappy! moment cathartic. While Quagmire is the lesser of two evils between the two, he isn't likable either.

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Not to derail this into a complaint thread, and sorry for venting, but am I the only one who's absolutely, utterly, thoroughly sick and fucking tired of hearing about how this show and Spongebob and whatnot are "T 3 H 3VULZ" and shit like that?

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That makes two of us.

Can we find something new to whine about? Please?

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

what in the world is "T 3 H 3VULZ"?

but it does get old seeing the same complaints about shows that past their prime years ago. I try to/and keep my whining to a minimum lol

edited 12th Oct '14 5:36:59 PM by teddy

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