Kyon: Big Damn Hero

Because of her nature to cross between dimensions while being a Innocent Fanservice Girl (via Innocent Innuendo), mayhaps?

edited 15th Feb '11 2:41:08 AM by MadKitsu

I have returned, and my vacation in the void was so boring...

Perhaps they are using her as a beacon to find the most trope filled universe?

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Or maybe she's going to become Trope-tan... which, if we combine all WMGs, would mean that Durandall is Wataru,

edited 15th Feb '11 7:41:42 AM by RainyDaze

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My brain is hurting.

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Is it? Why?

On an unrelated note, has the robots' violation of the Square-Cube Law been noted in-text?

edited 15th Feb '11 9:31:49 AM by RainyDaze

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These theories are getting nuts.

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That does appear to be the case. Amusing, though.

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I think Kyon noted the physical impossibility of the deathbot's structural design the first time he encountered it at the beach.

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That's what makes it fun.

I guess. I'm re-reading right now so I can get my head around everything again. Currently at chapter 16. I always pick up so much more on my second read through.

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@Rainy Daze: I think that Wataru is an alternate version of Durandall, one that had been forced to serve the Combine, I think...

Also, the robots probably break such laws without any reason whatsoever, I think...

edited 15th Feb '11 6:01:01 PM by MadKitsu

I have returned, and my vacation in the void was so boring...

Or Durandall is Wataru after the Combine's gone and K:BDH is formed from his recollections and whatever he's managed to learn from the others.

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I just thought of something amusing.

That theory of Mad Kitsu's from a while back...

...plus Rainy Daze's...

...becomes:

If Durandall = Wataru and Wataru = another!Kanae, then by the transitive property of equality, Durandall is another version of Kanae.

...or, y'know, whatever.

EDIT: After re-reading what I posted, I guess that would also make Durandall = Trope-tan, which would mean that he's his own long lost brother and....

Yeah, I think we'll just forget I said anything.

edited 16th Feb '11 11:44:41 PM by jasonulloa

Or maybe Durandall isn't another version of Kanae... he's the original and they've got lost again and are trying to work out the way home, writing up what happened whilst they wait.

Which would obviously mean they're not Trope-tan's long lost brother.

On a completely unrelated note, I wonder if Miyuki, Keichii, and possibly Kyon's mother are the only characters currently in Nishinomiya that probably don't have a Kansai Regional Accent?

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I don't think anybody uses the accent in the anime, do they? I'm not sure if it's in the novels, but apparently it's kind of assumed that they would have the accent and it's just not used because it might come off as weird.

I would guess that Mikuru and Yuki might not have it. Koizumi might not; does it ever say where he transferred in from?

The assuumption is because the city they're living in is a real-life one that's well within the Kansai-dialect region. A native of the city that does not speak Kansai-ben would be an anomaly.

However, that runs straight into the stereotype of Kansai Regional Accent being usually associated with... well, stupidity and/or obnoxiousness.

edited 17th Feb '11 7:48:44 AM by MarqFJA

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It's an incredibly minor case of Translation Convention for the sake of appeal rather than Did Not Do The Research, since Tanigawa lives there and probably wouldn't have to try to write it.

I'd think that Mikuru and Yuki would have it, if only because they're meant to seem like they're from around there. That and it's presumably not beyond time-travellers and incredibly powerful alien beings to ensure that the correct dialect is being used.

I don't think it's ever been said where Koizumi has come from. Though he might have mentioned it when talking to Kyon at the hospital in this. I don't think that's happened, though.

The interface most likely to have an atypical accent for Nishinomiya, in my opinion, would be Asakura. And for her I'd guess Kyoto-ben, since it fits her assumed personality rather well.

And that reason would be why it isn't used in the originals. Mentioning it in a fanfiction in another language is unlikely to cause such sentiments, if only because the stereotype is unlikely to be as deeply embedded into people's minds.

Speaking of Asakura, she would probably make a very handy person to have around in a kitchen if giving her a knife didn't seem like such a bad idea.

edited 17th Feb '11 8:04:10 AM by RainyDaze

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You'd think, but Mikuru doesn't understand mechanical technology at all (despite it being omnipresent in this time period) and Yuki's speech patterns are laconic to the point of being bizarre, so it wouldn't be too unusual if they were missing out on something as subtle as a regional accent. They both seem rather surprisingly poorly equipped in that regard.

I wouldn't say they don't have the accent, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. It could go either way and still be reasonable.

What Mikuru can say can be prohibited, though. Even if her accent was incorrect at first, it would probably have been... updated. The future's technology appears to be mental rather than physical, after all.

Though they do seem to have forgotten basic physics.

Heh, Yuki makes as much sense either way - Kansai-ben to fit in if she does need to say anything or nearly perpetually formal standard Japanese due to the influence of too many books. It's unlikely many questions would be asked, right? That she hardly ever speaks to people outside of the Brigade in K:BDH and next to no-one in Haruhi helps.

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You can't learn and master advanced (let alone quantum) physics without doing the same for basic physics. The problem with Mikuru is that her future society appears to have completely phased out almost all forms of technology that require direct physical interaction/manipulation (i.e. "mechanical" technology), probably replacing it with Nano Machines with neural interfacing.

edited 17th Feb '11 10:31:50 AM by MarqFJA

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Mikuru didn't know how a boat could possibly float when they went to the island. I'm pretty sure that's basic physics.

That or it's apparently considered a bad idea to teach time-travellers knowledge that will help them should they ever go back in time. Which is far more helpful than going in the other direction.

edited 17th Feb '11 12:24:52 PM by RainyDaze

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Okay, that one could be attributed to imprefections in the Time-Travellers' memory-altering process - they're not 100% precise, and frequently result in "excising" memories that weren't supposed to be modified in the first place. You know, like using a normal scalpel to perform a surgery that needs the pin-point precision of lasers.

edited 17th Feb '11 12:37:49 PM by MarqFJA

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So... when they were removing Mikuru's memories pertaining to the slider robots, they accidentally removed her knowledge of basic physics?

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You can say that. For analogy, consider the process of surgically excising a cancerous tumor; you always end up removing some of the "healthy" tissue around the tumor proper because you can never be sure whether or not any cancerous cells have already infected it, yet have not advanced to a macroscopically visible stage.

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Memories relevant to a single topic aren't like a cancer, though. And it is a single topic, since it's the only one mentioned so far that isn't merely classified.

It's either clumsiness through removal, another Stable Time Loop caused by Mikuru's lack of basic physics knowledge from her older self's perspective, or they forgot to teach it.

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