Characters in the WesternAnimation/ namespace

This discussion is about Western Animation/ pages for characters like WesternAnimation.Mickey Mouse and WesternAnimation.Bugs Bunny, which appear to primarily trope the characters themselves and not their filmographies.

After a lengthy discussion, the Comic Book/ namespace, which used to be populated with similar character-work page hybrids, has taken the route of converting these into character sheets and leaving the Comic Book/ namespace for comic book runs, as this fits more neatly into our namespace rules.

Should a similar approach be done for Western Animation? That would entail e.g. moving WesternAnimation.Bugs Bunny to Characters.Looney Tunes Bugs Bunny, as a proper subpage of Looney Tunes Major Characters (which links to the WA) page.

Thoughts?

Edited by Synchronicity on May 9th 2023 at 11:07:23 AM

That sounds like a good idea.

Yeah, I'm all for that. Smaller pages occupying a similar namespace should be for individual works, so it would make more sense for there to be a What's Opera, Doc? vs. a Bugs Bunny within Looney Tunes for example. I'm for giving the same treatment as ComicBook/

EDIT: What do we do about the Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner page? Perhaps the same thing, with individual shorts getting their own page?

Example? I could think perhaps artists that are only associated with groups that have a page (eg Kurt Cobain^note I never understood why he has his own page when he never did have a solo career; it can just as easily redirect to Nirvana). Not all acts have albums/songs with their own page (in fact most don't), so that would serve as a useful catchall for their music (so long as it's not IRL troping about the individuals within the act, which is a problem).

Edited by GrafVonTirol on May 10th 2023 at 12:15:14 PM

Maybe one day we'll get around to doing the same for Music/.

That sound good to me.

^^ Regarding the Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner page: I'd say so.

I think a lot of the tropes on WesternAnimation.Looney Tunes character specific pages can go on the LT parent page if we aren't able to make separate pages for them all. I don't know if there's a hub for the old Mickey Mouse and other Disney cartoons though.

Ah we can use that then.

Edited by MacronNotes on May 9th 2023 at 3:22:09 PM

There is

Edited by GrafVonTirol on May 9th 2023 at 12:20:55 PM

I think pages like WesternAnimation.Bugs Bunny should be split between a work page and a characters page. The work page would hold recurring plot tropes, like Negative Continuity. It could also hold examples for any shorts that haven't gotten their own pages yet.

WesternAnimation.Wile E Coyote And The Road Runner is already written as a work page; the characters are on Characters.Looney Tunes Major Characters

Yeah, I think the idea was supposed to be that these pages are for the series of shorts that the characters starred in, since each character (or set of characters) came with their own distinct set of tropes. Of course, especially with Looney Tunes, it's not clear where the boundaries between "series" are, particularly when characters cross over. (Ideally you'd go with the central or main character or protagonist of the short, but - for example - there was a period where it's hard to tell whether Porky or Daffy was supposed to be the "star" of a given short, including You Ought to Be in Pictures.) But I really don't think we need work pages for Elmer Fudd or Yosemite Sam, as those characters are primarily antagonists in Bugs Bunny cartoons, not protagonists of cartoons in their own right (assuming you don't consider Egghead to be the same character as Elmer Fudd).

Edited by MorganWick on May 10th 2023 at 1:27:57 AM

Previous discussion

i agree that Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner is written more like a work page and can stay, since a lot of people separate them from the rest of the looney tunes anyway, while the others should be converted into character pages

right, sorry, your idea to leave the pages for plot tropes makes sense to me

Edited by NoUsername on May 15th 2023 at 12:10:21 PM

They can't just be converted straight to character pages though, since they contain a mix of character and plot tropes. The examples will need to be gone through and sorted.

Edited by Twiddler on May 15th 2023 at 12:09:03 PM