To-do list:
- Since Supernatural Is Green and Supernatural Is Purple have been merged into Technicolor Magic, any examples that fit Technicolor Magic should be moved accordingly. Both Supernatural Is Green and Supernatural Is Purple have been disambiguated, so there may be a more fitting trope for a given example.
. The only distinguishing factor between the three? The color used. A wick check
was done to see if there were any patterns within the examples covered by other tropes as well as seeing how general examples for both tropes are, and if merging the two tropes is a possibility, or if the concept is even a trope. The wick check findings are summarized below: - 17/60 Supernatural Colored Trait or 28.3%
- 9/60 Magic Is Colored or 15%
- 4/60 Color-Coded Wizardry or 6.6%
- 11/60 Possible Shoehorns 18.3%
- 19/60 ZCE or 31.6%
The wick check shows a tendency towards ZCEs, with the next prominent usage being supernatural status indicated by a physical trait (usually eye color). I can see why the usage is varied, the definition is quite broad, aside from the color restriction. It boils down essentially to "supernatural is represented by X color" so I can't say this is really misuse, except for the shoehorns and examples that are actually Color-Coded Wizardry, so I guess a 25% misuse rate then. Something to note: while doing the wick check, I noticed that Supernatural Is Green has already gone through one rename for being unclear, so it being back here is not a great sign.
Here are a couple of different ideas I've stormed up:
- Combine Supernatural Is Purple, Supernatural Is Green, and Supernatural Is Blue (along with other colors) into one general trope about how a strange color (in-universe) is indicative of supernatural origin.
- Narrow definition of trope to specify either "Odd-colored trait is indicative of supernatural" or "magic is supernaturally colored"note .
- Rename the trope(s): This would hopefully cut down on misuse and ZCEs as several of the no-context examples were just the trope name.
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 28th 2022 at 8:12:56 AM
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I almost wanted to mention something about Magical Sensory Effect, but I figured I should ask first and see if it's warranted.
Edited by WarJay77 on May 28th 2022 at 5:23:50 AM
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I think it's worth a mention.
I should have mentioned this in my last post but would disambiguating both Supernatural Is Purple and Supernatural Is Green into multiple tropes like Emerald Power, Purple Is Powerful, Mark of the Supernatural, Technicolor Magic, and Color-Coded for Your Convenience, etc be compatible with the thread decision to merge them into Technicolor Magic
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I changed the page type for Technicolor Magic from subpage to trope.
Edit: Made the redirects as well. Also, I'd be fine with disambiguating Supernatural Is Purple and Supernatural Is Green instead of redirecting.
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 28th 2022 at 5:15:15 AM
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Yeah I think disambiguating is a better course of action than just redirect, given how broad the usage was for SIP and SIG.
ETA: also, what to do about the SIB TLP draft at this point? It’s not active rn but…
Edited by Hello83433 on May 28th 2022 at 6:25:43 AM
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I disambiguated Supernatural Is Green and Supernatural Is Purple.
Also, I nuked the Supernatural Is Blue draft once we voted to merge the Green and Purple tropes.
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I was going to do some crosswicking and wick cleaning today for this one but I don't feel good right now. So, I'll try later tonight.
Edited by MacronNotes on May 28th 2022 at 7:16:23 AM
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I removed the commented-out placeholder regarding "see also" sections and indexes since the links are now in place.
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Missed the convo but yes to disambig, no to redirect.
And since we're in the dewicking process, just a gentle reminder that if you find any Supernatural Is Purple examples that would also work for the Mysterious Purple draft I got going, please feel free to add them in the comments. I found a couple this way so I figured there's bound to be more.
Completely not necessary, but I'd very much appreciate it.
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I added a to-do list to the opening post and pinned it.
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I just noticed we have Color-Coded Elements and was wondering how or if it is related to Technicolor Magic?
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Color-Coded Elements can be used in conjunction with Technicolor Magic, but not all forms of colored magic fall under color coded elements. You could for example have all magic that a certain character casts, regardless of what's being casted, be a single color if that's the character's Color Motif.
Also Color-Coded Elements can apply to non-magic things as well, like the different tribes in Avatar: The Last Airbender wearing clothes of a color that is associated with the element they bend: water tribe wears blue and white, fire nation wears black and red, earth wears green and brown, air wears orange and yellow
Edited by amathieu13 on May 29th 2022 at 6:13:24 AM
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Color-Coded Elements uses colors to indicate the specific element (blue for water, red for fire, etc.), while Technicolor Magic simply uses various colors to indicate that something is magical or supernatural, regardless of its nature, as Supernatural Is Green and Supernatural Is Purple did before they were merged into a single trope.
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Well, now that Supernatural Is Purple is a disambiguation, what should replace the page image for IThoughtItMeant.S To T?
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That's a question for image picking
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That've been asked like 4 times, if there isn't an IP thread when I get to desktop I'll just come up with something similar myself.
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I made an IP thread to get that issue out of the way, and in the hopes that someone finds a better suggestion than the one I provided.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 1st 2022 at 2:34:15 PM
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~GastonRabbit I don't think the draft was ever discarded. Doesn't seem that way on my end.
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I have no idea what's up with that. I know for a fact I hit the discard button, so if there's a way to reverse discarding, that must be what happened. (I know very little about TLP, so I haven't kept track of it.)
Not sure if maybe it would be possible to put both a discard and a hold on it, but I'll see.
Edit: Oh, wait, it turns out there's a way to lock a discarded draft to prevent it from being restored. I went ahead and did that.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 1st 2022 at 5:42:06 AM
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Supernatural Is Green is finished, all that's left is to sift through Supernatural Is Purple.
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Did we integrate that Magic Is Blue draft?
Because I wanna get some "Mana Potions Are Blue" examples to have that foundation for video games.
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Also, is the World Of Warcraft example on Technicolor Magic, also Color-Coded Wizardry?
Edited by Malady on Jun 6th 2022 at 4:26:52 AM
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Mana potions being blue wouldn't fall under Technicolor Magic. It's not "magic related things have colors" it's "magic when being used is given a color as a visual flair."
Though feel free to migrate other tropes from the draft.
So, "Mana Meter and Mana Potions are both blue" doesn't fit? Darn. I'll take it to the Salvage Yard if that's true.
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Well, yeah, the trope's description makes it clear that it's about magic and supernatural abilities. Other paranormal/supernatural phenomena are covered but that doesn't extend to Mana bottles.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 6th 2022 at 8:14:49 AM
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Consensus was to merge Supernatural Is Purple and Supernatural Is Green into a single trope that involves the use of colors to indicate the supernatural, but isn't specific to a single color. What should the merged trope's name be?
Sorry, I was multitasking and missed that. I moved Technicolor Magic over so now I am going index that and deindex the supernatural color tropes. Given the the fact that both Supernatural Is Purple and Supernatural Is Green were used for anything associated with abnormality, I am not sure about redirecting them to Technicolor Magic but eh maybe it's fine.
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