Are these Character Tropes?

I agree; that's why I said "default".

I agree that "The Reason You Suck" Speech isn't necessarily a character trope.

Reposting

AFAIK it depends on how often it occurs. If it's a staple of their character than yeah, if it's just them carrying the Idiot Ball then nah because it's probably just going to be complaining from whoever wrote the entry

"Character did a thing once" does not make that thing a Character Trope. Only if that thing becomes distinctly identified with the character due to repetition would it possibly count.

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Edited by Coachpill on Oct 1st 2023 at 1:30:52 PM

Right. I'm backing you up, with a slightly different emphasis.

Too Dumb to Live can be both a situation and a trait, but without further context there's no way of telling which.

e: Well I forgot Lethally Stupid

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 1st 2023 at 8:56:37 PM

Ah, sorry. Didn't realize what you meant at first.

FWIW Lethally Stupid is more firmly a character trope; is there a specific example you're asking about, @Random Troper 123? Cause those two tropes overlap a lot.

Yeah, I don't think Too Dumb to Live is a trait; it's a character committing an act so dumb it may kill them. Lethally Stupid is the character trait.

Ok. Thanks everyone for your responses.

Also, to respond to the question at, I'm not necessarily referring to a specific situation actually.

Is If You Kill Him, You Will Be Just Like Him! a character because I deleted this entry in Sandbox.Slow Damage Takuma Murase since it feels like a narrative trope to me.

• If You Kill Him, You Will Be Just Like Him!: In the climax of his route, Taku is given the opportunity to pull the trigger on Toono. He ultimately decides against it, stating that while they're both shitty people, he refuses to stoop down to the other's level.

Asking here for confirmation...

By default, should Wrecked Weapon and Mugging the Monster go to the Character folders, or to the work's main page?

Both read as narrative/plot point tropes to me.

Question regarding Armor-Piercing Question; do we list in it for the character giving the question or the character receiving the question? Or do we not list it in character pages at all?

If someone continually asks these questions, to the point they it becomes a defining trait, it's a candidate for their page. Otherwise, it's a plot moment, not a character trope.

That said, if someone is unfortunate enough to continually be on the receiving end of them, I guess that might be worth listing too. Although that situation suggests a lack of self-awareness that means that other character tropes might be more appropriate.

Edited by Mrph1 on Oct 26th 2023 at 5:26:17 PM

Additionally, do we list standard tropes (like Everyone Has Standards) on characters who are on the receiving end of them. Like this

• Everyone Has Standards: They are on the receiving end of this because blah blah blah.

I think that would go in the standard-haver's section, as not all examples have a character on the receiving end. ("Bob might be an asshole but he believes in recycling.")

Moved the issue originally mentioned in this comment to the cleanup thread for The Amazing Digital Circus; please ignore this comment.

Edited by Inky100 on Nov 22nd 2023 at 10:35:08 AM

Could someone direct me to pages with folders you'd consider to be up to snuff already? I've been rooted in the "any trope is fine as long as it involves a character" mindset, because every dive I've made through the characterization trope index brought me into narrative trope territory.

I see "The Reason You Suck" Speech being posted on Character pages a lot. But it seems like it's more of a plot trope? What do you guys think?

I think unless it's a thing a particular character does frequently to the point of being a major part of their character, a trope like "The Reason You Suck" Speech shouldn't be there.

As an example with a different trope, I added an entry for Decapitation Strike for Nanao Hibiya on Characters.Reign Of The Seven Spellblades, because it really is a routine part of her fighting style in group combats: she frequently and deliberately goes straight for the opposing leader to end fights.

I agree

Is Point of Divergence a character trope? Because it strikes me more as a narrative one.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:19:10 PM

Ignore, accidental double post.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:19:00 PM

This sounds like a heavily subjective topic.