See here for Nightmare Fuel
, which has frequent enough problems to deserve a thread of its own.
A while ago, I made a thread for cleaning up Nightmare Fuel pages, since they tend to attract all sorts of gushing about anything vaguely unsettling, as well as violations of Example Indentation and the Spoiler Policy among other problems. Well, other Moments pages have similar issues, though to a slightly lesser extent, so they may as well have a cleanup thread too.
"Moments" reactions should:
- Be free of spoiler tags, in accordance with the Spoilers Off policy which states that:
Fridge, Headscratchers, and the various Moments subpages (Tear Jerker, Moment of Awesome, etc.) are for post-viewing discussions. Spoiler tagging there defeats the purpose of the articles. You shouldn't be going there if you are worried about them.
- Be based on things that actually have happened, not things that could happen, will happen, or might have happened. Speculation belongs only on the Wild Mass Guessing pages.
- Have affected the writer of the entry themselves. If you don't find something funny or sad, let someone who did add it to Funny Moments or Tear Jerker.
- Elicit a strong reaction. Not every single time a character accomplishes something is an Awesome Moment, not every attempt at comedy is a Funny Moment, not every time someone does something nice is a Heartwarming Moment, and not every unhappy event is a Tear Jerker.
- Explain why they're so awesome/funny/sad: Zero Context Examples aren't allowed on this wiki. Your description should allow anyone to understand your reaction.
edited 30th Apr '18 6:39:13 PM by Zuxtron
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If I want to send a notifier about how Meta isn't allowed on Moments pages, what template should I use? Should I even send a notifier in the first place?
For context: I got rid of Meta on Funny.Doctor Who60th Anniversary Specials that was two days old.
Edited by Riolugirl on Dec 13th 2023 at 5:52:55 PM
"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her)
She / Her
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I suggest either removing the part that lists the cartoons altogether, or shorten the list down to just a couple of them.
I couldn't find a notifier that seems to fit this case, so I'm leaning on saying no notification should be sent. EDIT: My bad, I forgot about custom notifiers.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Dec 15th 2023 at 11:16:59 AM
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
You can always send a custom one.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
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Back to discuss this example from Awesome.Other Media:
- CITV's Old Skool Weekend on the first weekend of 2013. Its ratings were up to ten times the usual amount because they were showing, as the name suggests, old school programmes instead of current ones.
Seems like a Nostalgia Filter-fuelled Stealth Insult towards then-current media more so than a cool moment. Whoever wrote this, they have the same energy as those "NEW CARTOONS SUCK OLD CARTOONS ROCK LMFAOOO" jerkasses that haunt the larger internet and throw tantrums when someone points out how asinine they sound. Besides, doesn't this techincally qualify as an illegal meta moment since it's not linked to a narrative?
Edited by Riolugirl on Dec 20th 2023 at 11:16:09 AM
"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her)
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
I found this on TearJerker.The Fall Of The House Of Usher 2023:
- Although we are never made privy to the names or identities of all of Prospero's party guests, seeing their horrific and painful demises is not only frightening but devastating to witness, especially when you empathize with the victims of real life shootings and bombings that killed large amounts of people, whose reactions to the sudden violence are not dissimilar to Perry's acid accident. Seeing so many people trying to run and escape from the toxic chemicals, terrified and traumatized as they burn, and knowing there is no way for them to as they are barricaded inside, is absolutely one of the most disheartening scenes of the entire show and can leave you feeling deeply distressed and depressed afterward. That 78 people and counting died means there are also many grieving families out there that we never get to see, meaning the Ushers are not the only family that suffered here. Other families were no doubt effected by this as well.
So, the bolded part is bringing real life and recent tragadies into something completely unrelated to them. Is that allowed?
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Very Spooky
That’s a very awkward addendum that adds little to the entry. Feel free to cut it.
back lol
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Okay removed it.
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
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Here's a weird case on Funny.Starfield:
- In a meta moment, one of the more vocal complaints about Fallout 4 was that the main character was voiced, as some people didn't like the way their avatar sounded. Starfield devs pointed out that the player character wouldn't be voiced, and they were truthful about that. If you finish the game without siding with the Hunter or the Arbiter, you'll meet another version of yourself in the Union, in other words, not the player character, but a character that looks like the player character. One of the first things you can do is point out that you don't sound like that.
It introduces itself as a "meta moment", which isn't allowed on Moments pages, but what it describes is somewhat relevant to the game. How should I go about rephrasing this, and is a notifier necessary? "As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her)
I am going to admit it, I dont like Saikano. But this is just an absolute storm of absolutely awful troping. Sai Kano.
From the "Trust me bro!" style zero context examples, the over the top "YOU WILL CRY AT THIS" gushing, the Narm that is the biggest example of the trope ever, linking to an AMV... This thing is awful and then some.
Edited by AegisP on Jan 16th 2024 at 12:19:01 PM
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I would get rid of the meta examples about CITV and Starfield and remove the unnecessary RL mention on House of Usher.
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I did contemplate commenting out the Starfield example so that it could be rewritten, but in the end the best course of action is to cut it. It's too entangled in meta and could come across as stealth complaining about Fallout 4.
The CITV example is also the only example under the "Television" subheading, so I'll be cutting that too.
Edited by Riolugirl on Jan 17th 2024 at 11:24:19 AM
"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her)
Funny Fan Works aren't to be listed on their source work's funny pages, right?
It should be listed on Funny.Fan Works perhaps?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
No, we don't list fan/community/meta content, only things that are actually in the work itself.
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Why is there an entire Meta folder on Funny.Pokemon Masters? It talks a lot about team comps and there are some forbidden references to social media.
"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her)
Very Spooky
Meta folders are always prohibited, but what’s odd is that some of the entries in there aren’t meta. I’d move valid examples to other folders and cut the rest.
back lol
- To be honest, seeing Eru cry in Episode 2 is kind of sad. Fortunately, she gets better quickly.
Not only is this example so weakly written, the moment isnt even that sad and the example admits it. Also it's Elle not Eru.
Edited by AegisP on Feb 15th 2024 at 2:23:37 AM
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I would say remove that entry from the page itself. The part is pretty vague and it does look low effort to be added if anything even if it is short in question.
Maintenance?
There's a new dedicated thread focusing on Awesome.My Hero Academia, which has become extremely bloated.
Edited by LaundryPizza03 on Feb 19th 2024 at 10:55:58 AM
I'm back!
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Funny.Backstroke Of The West has a lot of indentation issues, contextless quotes and at least one meta moment (with a link that the page flat-out admits is dead).
"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her)
I just found this in YMMV.Frankenfish:
- Funny Moments:
- As far as this troper can tell, the deaths in the movie are played straight without comedy. Roland's death scene is unintentionally funny though, with its over-the-top execution: The monster is able to jump out of the water and with just one bite took off his head, and later on the same creature happily slithered around the house and pushed the rest of the body into the water for its own consumption.
...I want to get rid of the "this troper" text really badly but I don't know if I should delete the whole entry or if I should try to rewrite it. I haven't seen the movie so I don't know how valid the entry is. Thoughts?
Edited by UchuuFlamenco on Feb 29th 2024 at 10:39:52 AM
Angry babby
Remove the first sentence and move it to Narm, which is for attempted drama that ends up being funny.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Accumulating Filibuster Counters
From Heartwarming.The Venture Bros:
- When Dean calls Rusty "daddy" and Rusty doesn't correct him; he even refers to himself as such. Most dads would not like their sons to use such an affectionate nickname.
I have no idea which episode this is from and while it is quite possibly age-inappropriate for Dean to be calling Rusty "Daddy", the second sentence still comes across as a Standard '50s Father "don't be a sissy, son, call me 'Father' or 'Sir'" attitude that feels a bit off.
"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
Feels like kind of a weak example to me. Sort of the heartwarming equivalent of Damned by Faint Praise.
On Awesome.Deadpool And Wolverine, there's a few examples that have me scratching my head as to how exactly they are supposed to be awesome:
- Before the action is shown, Wade’s pegging joke towards Disney sates initial fears that the first Deadpool movie of Marvel Studios was going to be toned down:
Wade: Is that supposed to be scary? Pegging isn't new for me, friendo… but it is for Disney. [glances at the camera]
- This is just "R-rated movie tells an R-rated joke". I don't really see how that's an awesome moment, and if it is, it seems kinda meta.
- Just the fact that Deadpool & Wolverine manages to be a Sequel in Another Medium for Loki in the form of the return of the TVA, instead of simply leaving the series self-contained. Now, not only does Loki manage to usher in the MCU's multiverse era, but it also provides the means for Canon Welding Deadpool's series and the X-Men into it.
- Again, not really clear from this wording what's supposedly awesome. It boils down to "Marvel has continuity" and also feels meta.
- How did Disney handwave the Elephant in the Room over 20th Century Fox and the entire cast of this film outside the TVA being from Marvel properties they owned? They literally dropped everything, including the famous logo, into the Void.
- Not sure what this one is going for either. I don't understand what the first sentence is even trying to say. Also seems like a meta moment.
Cut all three? (There's some valid bullets on the page, so it won't be blank.)
I made this page today and I explained everything that happened in the scene and why it was sad and more and it still got deleted.
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On Funny.Pizza Tower, I think the description is starting to go too overboard with all the cartoons being listed:
What should I do?
Edited by ChillyBeanBAM on Dec 12th 2023 at 5:34:18 AM
he/him