She-Ra and the Princesses of Power

Announced today. Noelle Stevenson, creator of Lumberjanes, will be showrunner.

If it's of the same level of quality as Voltron, I'm all in.

edited 12th Dec '17 12:48:25 PM by comicwriter

I was always disappointed that the He-Man reboot from 2001 never got far enough to introduce She-Ra (It introduced Hordak and was hinting at Horde Prime which probably was going to lead to She-Ra appearing). Not to mention than in business metrics, we’re around 15 years removed from said reboot, give or take, so the time is right for a reboot.

Hey, the characters get to do stuff besides shill for car insurance and supermarkets. That’s a good thing. Just don’t let anyone from the Voltron reboot near it.

I have high hopes for this! Met Noelle Stevenson a few months ago, and she had a lot of cool stuff to describe about her comic influences and style of writing.

I'm sad in general that the He-Man reboot was as short-lived as it was. I haven't seen it in a long time, but from what I remember it was a pretty decent update of the concept. Like they actually turned Skeletor into a somewhat threatening villain, for one.

The Masters of the Universe movie did that too.

Yeah but as good as Frank Lagnelle performance was, the movie won’t be seen in a positive light by general audience (especially with the make up he is given). That movie is to Skeletor what the Street Fighter movie is to Bison.

Anyway, I was actually hoping this show was going to be a direct continuaton to the He Man reboot since the creators actually have some plans for She Ra. But instead its a full on reboot to a new audience which is going to be weird reintroducing She ra as part of her origin does require He Man’s involvement considering her debut in that movie saw her working for Hordak and having no memories of being the kidnapped princess of Eternia.

Either way, I am interested in how they would do this show. Especially with the writer of Lumberjane being involved . . . please don’t be a Steven Universe knock off. I would definitely prefer it being a Star vs. The Force of Evil knockoff, but never Steven Universe.

The world REALLY doesn’t need another Steven Universe.

It also kinda misses the point if She-Ra, in which she was just as competent as He-Man and kicked ass with a sword. There was no gender based moral.

> The world REALLY doesn’t need another Steven Universe.

I disagree,the world needs moar shows like Steven Universe

Moar!

No it doesn’t.

Or at the very least it doesn’t need She-Ra to be like that, when her whole deal was she was He-Man’s equal, fought alongside men and women, and fought against men and women. She kicked ass but she didn’t need to beat people over the head with the gender issues bat the way a lot of modern cartoons tend to do.

I have to question your opinion if you think SU "beats the viewer's head with gender issues", frankly.

Yeah. I never felt Steven Universe beat me over the head with gender issues.

Maybe a bad choice of words, but my point is, She-Ra shouldn’t be like SU.

I'm hoping this reboot is going to be similar to the 2002 He-Man reboot in style and tone. I do wonder how they will do this reboot.

My thoughts exactly.

Now on why I don't want it to be like SU, well, its mostly from a writing perspective as I don't want it to be like that show. Its good when it comes to character exploration and slice of life situation, but when it comes to working with long arching story arcs and its story progressions its just slow and feels like it is going nowhere. Maybe its because of the huge abundance of filler episodes or the many hiatus, either way I don't want the She Ra cartoon to follow SU's style of writing in that regards. Especially seeing how SVTFOE basically have better pacing in its story as well as a good balance of filler and plot based episodes, as well as the added fact that its world/universe definitely is comparable to the Masters of Universe world (sans all the sci fi tech).

But for anime comparisson just think of SU as Naruto and SVTFOE as One Piece . . . I don't know which recent American cartoon is Bleach and Fairy Tail, and I don't want to.

Somehow I doubt that She-Ra will have a slice of life episodes, so it sounds like moot point discussion. Fillers are a more likely problem but we're not even sure if cartoon will be arc heavy or long enough to make it a problem. Don't most of Netflix shows have short seasons?

I guess it looks ok. I only watched He-Man 2002 and I haven't seen it in years, so I don't really have much attachment to the franchise.

Yeah, a lot of Netflix seasons are short. Especially when considering this show is going to be the third action based Dreamworks cartoon along with Voltron The Legendary Defenders and Troll Hunters.

Also the designs for the show does looks good as it is very reminiscent to the 80s design. Still, and beating a dead horse here, I kind of wish the characters were given a redesign similar to the ones from that He Man reboot back in the 2000s.

edited 13th Dec '17 4:44:22 AM by BigK1337

Fourth if we count The Adventures of Puss in Boots, of course.

I'm hoping they really play with the "former enforcer of the Big Bad" angle. There's a lot of story potential there.

edited 13th Dec '17 9:44:23 AM by BigMadDraco

Ugh.

^{just saying} I hold Steven Universe and Adventure Time as benchmarks for where cartoons nowadays should aim in terms of musical and narrative content - I would hope She-Ra meets those standards.

I always had the impression She-Ra was just, "He-Man, but with a woman instead." I'm not really up for a contemporary "girl power" show in the wake of DC Super Hero Girls and nu!Powerpuff Girls. From that announcement quote, I get the impression that this show is supposed to be/is going to be reactionary; that it's going to be Anvilicious about gender and probably lots more. I don't look forward to The Mary Sue getting to rub their noses about how "She-Ra finally gets it's long-deserved reboot separate from the decrepit He-Man character!" ^note And I REALLY don't want to hear about She-Ra being a "groundbreaking" cartoon when Miraculous Ladybug, Totally Spies, Tangled, Extreme Ghostbusters, Ruby Moon, and My Life As A Teenage Robot Exist Maybe that's unfair, but it's where I stand.

That said, I like seeing old cartoons get brought back - Samurai Jack, Thunder Cats, Voltron - I think I can enjoy it for that bias if nothing else.

I never really got into He-Man or She-Ra, not enough to memorize storylines; only enough to get the gist of the Robot Chicken parodies and be somewhat aware of the character. She-Ra's solidity outside of He-Man's adventures always fascinated me. She wasn't just "He-Man's sidekick," she was fleshed out with her own powers, her own "spirit animal/battle mount," her own setting, and seemingly her own rogues gallery.

I hope that with this show they start modernizing/bringing back other goofy, 80's-90's concepts instead of just making new Transformers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Bring on reboots for Street Sharks, Captain Planet, Captain N, and Magic School Bus too while we're at it.

edited 15th Dec '17 2:43:20 PM by Soble

Slightly off topic, but The Magic School Bus Rides Again exists, Carmen Sandiego's getting a reboot, and the Wacky Races reboot recently debuted. There isn't quite a shortage on reboots from non-long runners.

edited 13th Dec '17 7:18:37 PM by XMenMutant22

I doubt it's going to be like that at all. Stevenson's books are rarely hard-hammering over gender. They're usually about being set in worlds where sexism and anti-queerness don't exist and women characters are seen in roles typically set aside for male characters, such as the Reasonable Authority Figure bodybuilder campmaster, or the vengeful Captain Ahab-type hunter, or the part-Wild Card part-Eldritch Abomination evil minion-wannabe. Less about stuffing down morals about gender, more about skipping right past them so we can focus on the adventure.

They're also far from unkind to men; a major subplot of Lumberjanes's first arc is about a pack of Boy Scouts who are genuinely caring and compassionate but are mistreated by their Testosterone Poisoning scoutmaster. A similar theme is also the subject of her girlfriend's book The Witch Boy.

The latter book is a metaphor for gender roles. So those themes are prominent, and probably will be so here.

edited 13th Dec '17 9:55:37 PM by Beatman1

Ok, you are getting a bit too negative here.

Prominent in Molly's book, not Noelle's.

It's kind of amusing how someone is already lambasting this series for being too heavy-handed about gender issues before it's even aired.

People ought to be thrilled that the same mind behind Nimona and Lumberjanes (one of them anyway) is behind this series.

edited 13th Dec '17 11:01:27 PM by M84