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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#251: Jan 19th 2018 at 10:04:01 AM

No, you need at least 150. Bit of Artistic License – Biology going on there.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#252: Jan 19th 2018 at 10:45:08 AM

Either way, I'm not sure that's how Byakuya plans to get busy saving humanity just yet.

pblades Since: Oct, 2009
#253: Jan 19th 2018 at 12:18:05 PM

Weren't there other astronauts orbiting the planet other than the ones the ISS?

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#254: Jan 20th 2018 at 3:15:30 AM

Or maybe they managed to depetrify some people…

Boichi likes his girls bouncy as always. tongue

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#255: Jan 20th 2018 at 10:44:43 PM

...

no fucking way is the village we've been seeing a society that's existed for 3000 years.

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#256: Jan 21st 2018 at 2:25:52 AM

Yeah they should have repopulated much of Asia by now unless there's some strict birth control policies in place.

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#257: Jan 21st 2018 at 9:58:35 AM

And by "repopulated much of Asia" you mean "died off due to excessive inbreeding."

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#258: Jan 21st 2018 at 1:27:27 PM

Correct number needed for stable population is 160, but if you put aside stability you can go practically with any number. Genetic mutation had to be pretty common initially. Village surviving this long is lucky, but not on level of miracle.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#259: Jan 21st 2018 at 1:27:29 PM

Either way, ~50 isn't a plausible population number.

Also, like, remember when we first met Kohaku and I was going 'how the hell is she still speaking modern japanese'? I quieted down on that front because it looked like they'd only be unpetrified for a few generations, and the first generation had for some reason attempted to suppress scientific knowledge.

So, even aside from questions of populations, we have the questions of 'why hasn't there been any linguistic drift?' and 'why hasn't there been any technological advancement?'

Like I understand that not everyone is gonna have Senku levels of understanding modern technology, but why did Chrome have to rediscover basic chemical reactions from scratch? Are to believe that in 3000 years, Chrome was the only one who thought to try stuff like that? And surely the astronauts would've passed on what knowledge they could scrape together, in the hopes that future generations will build on, right? They should be at least enough knowledge to know that a pulley isn't magic.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#260: Jan 21st 2018 at 1:29:20 PM

I feel those questions might be answered in the coming chapters.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#261: Jan 21st 2018 at 1:48:08 PM

Oh, here's another thing I remembered: Y'know how Senku wasn't allowed in the village because the villagers believed that they were the only people in the world, except for some criminals that had been exiled from the village and therefore shouldn't be allowed back in?

That's not a view that makes any sense if it's been more than a few generations. If it's been more than, say, ~100 years, they'd be going 'unless they're the descendants of people who were exiled, I guess. But we're still going to keep people out because of crimes their ancestors committed centuries ago.' Which, is, y'know, not how it was portrayed.

So, like, it's gonna take a real fucking good explanation for me to accept that this village has been going for 3000 years.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#262: Jan 21st 2018 at 2:12:28 PM

Maybe a wild Tsukasa appeared and suppressed all scientific knowledge at some point… Doesn't explain the tiny population though…

Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#263: Jan 21st 2018 at 2:27:33 PM

At some point you just have to say, "Because shonen.", and let it go.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#265: Jan 21st 2018 at 2:39:40 PM

[up][up] In another shonen, maybe, but for one so focused on detailed sciency stuff, glaring overlooks would seem jarring.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#266: Jan 21st 2018 at 3:08:57 PM

I feel like everyone's assuming a little prematurely that they're going to land and head straight into Adam and Eve land.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#267: Jan 21st 2018 at 3:09:13 PM

The reason it bothers me is that until this chapter, there totally was a reasonable explanation for all this available, which is why I haven't been complaining about it before. If we assume the village's first generation was unpetrified ~100 years earlier than Senku for whatever reason, the only remaining question is 'why did the first generation suppress scientific knowledge?' Which is not something that defies explanation, and what I thought this flashback was going to focus on explaining.

But no, it seems suggesting that the first generation was never petrified, which raises a whole hosts of additional problems.

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#268: Jan 22nd 2018 at 3:03:13 AM

"I'm a chemist, not a geneticist dammit"

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#269: Jan 26th 2018 at 7:09:33 AM

Maybe the population went to war with one and another, leaving the Ishigami population quite secluded. Or maybe Senkuu, as a genius as he is, probably mistook some of the calculations.

Or maybe Artistic License – Biology is full effect in here. Marry your cousins, everyone, is Genesis time again! Besides, Senkuu did say he was going to be the new world Adam... although he later said "Taiju" was going to be the Eve... LUCKILY NOT ANYMORE!!! (Sarcasm Mode)

In all seriousness, my personal theory is that there was someone like Tsukasa again in the past, which made the world even more science-less than before.

edited 26th Jan '18 7:12:00 AM by Tomodachi

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#271: Jan 26th 2018 at 11:58:00 AM

[up] The explanation for that question will not be enjoyed.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#272: Jan 26th 2018 at 12:09:41 PM

I can just assume they took the Japanese names and speak Esperanto or something.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#273: Jan 26th 2018 at 2:33:12 PM

Sometimes the spoken language just does not matter.

Just look at Jojo part 3 and wonder. What the hell language should they be speaking.

NinjaDragon Since: Nov, 2010
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